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PDF February 28th, 2004 09:34 PM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
I will probably regret asking but.. they dont work to boost research anymore like in Dom1?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nope, feature was pulled out of Dom2 ... maybe because astral nations were already the strongest and didn't need an extra boost !
A propos de Acashic Records, it isn't that much costly than the basic one-path spells : each of these costs 2, so searching all paths cost 18 (counting slaves), whereas AR is 25, that's only 25% more but is 1 action instead of 9 and can be done with only 1 path instead of 9 !
Finally note that with 40% site freq and avg 1.5 gems/site (that's a guess more than a calculation, given that many sites don't give any gems) you'll get on average 0.4*4*1.5 = 2.4 gems/turn production. So ROE is 10 turns ...

Pocus February 28th, 2004 11:03 PM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
cestkoi ROE?

I can understand why Alexti asked the question on first instance though. Thats because astral does not have low level summons, so one can be under the impression that there is a lull, in astral gem usage, compared to other paths.
But I dont think that somebody can seriously say he has too much gems in his labs, or it means you have won against the AI, but dont want to end the game to toy with them a bit more.

Saber Cherry February 28th, 2004 11:36 PM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
Astrals:

-Convert to all other gem types
-Are great for ring of sorcery / wizardry

How can you have too many astral gems? It's not possible. If you can't use them all, either convert them or empower commanders until you can use them all. Lucky Coin / Starshine Skullcap / Robe of Shadows / Pendant of Luck / Crown of Command are all so useful that I could forge one per astral mage per turn and still want more.

GavinWheeler February 29th, 2004 09:36 PM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pocus:
cestkoi ROE?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"ROI" serait "Return on Investment", ce qui makes sense dans cette context. Pour "ROE" je n'ai aucun bloody idée, unless c'est "return on enchantment" ou something comme that.

Why the proliferation of franglais, anyway?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Ragnarok-X February 29th, 2004 10:10 PM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
- Acashik Record, definitly worth it.
- Luck Charm
- Spell Focus Charm

And yeah, good for dispelling, always have a few douzen in spare, just for the case...


I cant think of any other uses now, except that teleport can be PRETTY useful.

I think the mass teleport ritual is quite good, too, though i didnt used it yet.
The problem is that its QUITE difficult to get high level astral mages. Most times you only have a high astral level if your made your pretender like this or you got a hero, some have things like 2-4 astral which can be boosted with the scullcap then.

BTW: Are there ANY elemental summons which have astral skill ?

Peter Ebbesen February 29th, 2004 11:40 PM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok-X:

BTW: Are there ANY elemental summons which have astral skill ?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">For one nature and one astral (which should be possible to gain, if nothing else then through empowerment), you can gain a Couatl, which is nature 3, astral 3.

Norfleet March 1st, 2004 09:46 AM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GavinWheeler:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Pocus:
cestkoi ROE?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"ROI" serait "Return on Investment", ce qui makes sense dans cette context. Pour "ROE" je n'ai aucun bloody idée, unless c'est "return on enchantment" ou something comme that.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, there's "ROI", which makes sense in the context, return on investment. ROE is "rules of engagement", which seems to have nothing to do with the topic.

And Astral Gems? There are just so many uses. Wishing for an army of Doom Horrors, conVersion to any other gem type as needed, dispelling, and soforth.

[ March 01, 2004, 07:47: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

Aikamun March 1st, 2004 10:32 AM

Re: How do you use astral gems?
 
Return on Equity = Net Income / Total Stockholders' Equity

The bottom line when measured against the shareholders' money.

I answered a question,
Aikamun

[ March 01, 2004, 08:34: Message edited by: Aikamun ]


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