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E. Albright March 8th, 2004 05:05 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
And if we're nitpicking spellings and suchlike:

"...and finally kill the one who sent him here."

Norfleet March 8th, 2004 07:56 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
What, a Lord of the Night or Vampire Queen isn't a deadly enough assassin as it is? Sure, they're not innately assassins, but that's nothing a Black Heart can't fix. The VQ isn't even significantly affected by the installation of a Black Heart, since undead have 0 melee encumberance.

Of course, sending an SC pretender out to kill a single random enemy commander seems to be a little excessive, especially when you can just kill the entire army.....but hey.

Ragnarok-X March 8th, 2004 07:24 PM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
hey again, thanks for suggestions.

Im still not sure about immortality or ethereality.

Anyways, PvK, both #standart and #standard DONT work. Same goes for #awe...

PDF: Missile weapons have to #precision command, instead the #att is used for precision. So the Crossbow has a presicision of 4, which is quite powerfull http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

I have another question, about the weapon names.

When designing the weapons i meant them to be weapons from another world or realm. Thats why i called them "Otherworldly". Is that right, understandable ? If not what do you suggest ? I need a präfix or something, like in diablo 2.

thanks for your help !

Davidious March 9th, 2004 12:30 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
Quote:

Anyways, PvK, both #standart and #standard DONT work. Same goes for #awe...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I might have missed it, but I didn't see #awe on your guy.

in any case put it after the weapons and armor

#awe 4 (or whatever level)

This would show up on the pretender when you looked at him in game as Awe +3 (the first +1 is Awe 0 if that makes sense).

same with the standard, put it after the weapons and armor.

#standard 6 (or whatever level)

I believe all your special abilities are supposed to go after weapons and armor.

IIRC the order you should put things is like:

Name/description
Stats
Weapons/armor
Special powers/abilities
Magic skill levels (ie casting levels)
end

[ March 08, 2004, 22:44: Message edited by: Davidious ]

PDF March 9th, 2004 02:14 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
The OtherWordly crossbow needs a Precision value, isn't it ?
Or give him an Ethereal Crossbow directly, if you're too lazy to make one yourself in-game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

velk March 9th, 2004 02:43 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
Quote:

Of course, sending an SC pretender out to kill a single random enemy commander seems to be a little excessive, especially when you can just kill the entire army.....but hey.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's why a pretender with innate assassinate is vastly more powerful than a lord of the night with a black heart. It takes *time* to get the black heart, by the time you have it the loss of a single random commander has a relatively small chance of a major impact on armies. During the first 10-15 turns having your commanders repeatedly assassinated by a virtually invicible pretender is crippling, and doesn't suffer the drawback of regular assassins ( specifically you aren't using the 1/comander turn to churn out mages and melee commanders )

March 9th, 2004 02:47 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
Except you can patrol and find him and kill him. Especially considering the LotN's Stealth Rating. A better candidate would be the All-Father.

Davidious March 9th, 2004 04:06 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
ok here's your guy in more or less the correct order with awe and standard working.


#selectmonster "Moloch"
#clear
#clear
#clear
#name "Otherworldly Ambassador"
#descr "A humansized creature with 3 eyes, hiding beneath a Robe which is emitting a glow which cant be from this world.
Sent from another realm by another being. His given task: Uniting this world in order to supply his master with everything this world has to offer: people, goods, magic.
Some say there is another reason why the ambassador wants to unite the world: To establish his own kingdom and finally kill the one who sended him here."
#ap 6
#mapmove 2
#hp 18
#size 2
#prot 2
#str 9
#enc 4
#att 11
#def 12
#prec 13
#mr 18
#mor 30
#gcost 100
#startdom 2
#stealthy 25
#assassin
#spy
#pathcost 70
#weapon 700
#weapon 701
#armor "Otherworldly Robe"
#awe 3
#standard 10
#immortal
#ethereal
#eyes 3
#clearmagic
#clearmagic
#expertleader
#end

That should help http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Edit:

tested it a bit and had to move the stealthy, assassin, and spy up a bit to get them all in the correct order. I believe it's all good now.

[ March 09, 2004, 05:01: Message edited by: Davidious ]

Graeme Dice March 9th, 2004 04:42 AM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
Your unit description might read better if the wording was changed a bit. You might like to try something like:

"A atrange creature the size of a man but with 3 eyes. He hides beneath a robe that emanates a glow that cannot be from this world.
He was sent from another realm by his master to unitie this world, and supply his master with everything this world has to offer: people, goods, magic.
Some say that there is another reason that the ambassador wants to unite the world: To establish his own kingdom and obtain the power to kill the one who sent him here."

Or something like that.

Ragnarok-X March 9th, 2004 06:02 PM

Re: RATE this pretender (not über) and give tipps !
 
thanks everyone !


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