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Yossar March 14th, 2004 02:09 AM

Re: Blood Magic: The Truth behind those Fruiters that Practice it
 
Kind of off topic but as Mictlan do you need a lab to make your blood sacrificers automatically restocking slaves? If the answer is yes (which I think it is) do you have to use scouts to ferry slaves around? Or build a lab in every province with a temple? Or put temples in your blood hunting provinces?

Also if you do "pool slaves" it removes all slaves from your blood sacrificers too. Is there any way to play Mictlan without them being a micromanagement nightmare?


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Originally posted by Spacepain:
3. Give scouts SDR(what is that btw?)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sanguine Dowsing rod, a level 4 magic item.

March 14th, 2004 02:12 AM

Re: Blood Magic: The Truth behind those Fruiters that Practice it
 
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Originally posted by Spacepain:
Whew... lot of information there, esp. for a newbie. Let me try to summarize this.

1. Use scouts to harvest, because they are cheapest unit and cause the least unrest.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I would.

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2. Build a lab in the provinces ur harvesting from to null the microing.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Saves alot of time and frustration.

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3. Give scouts SDR(what is that btw?)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sanguine Dousing Rod. No, do not give scouts those, only Blood Magic Blood Hunters. It gives an Effective +2 Blood Level for Blood Hunting. Look at the MIQR for more information.

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4. Keep taxes down to prevent unrest
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Unless you like patrolling and moving your blood hunting teams around when the population drops to ~4k.


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Now my only concern is the unrest. For nations like Marignon with Diabolic theme, they have to be slanted towards turmoil, making unrest even more common. How do you supress this with out eventually wasting the entire population of a province? I doubt that a high growth for domain would compensate.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Turmoil doesn't increase Unrest at all, only reduces gold income and increases chance for events. Growth is a good option if you plan on eating away at your provinces for blood hunting, but I don't particularly like it because the point/pop increase isn't what I consider the best investment if there are other options (Productivity, etc)

Saber Cherry March 14th, 2004 03:02 AM

Re: Blood Magic: The Truth behind those Fruiters that Practice it
 
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Originally posted by Yossar:
Kind of off topic but as Mictlan do you need a lab to make your blood sacrificers automatically restocking slaves? If the answer is yes (which I think it is) do you have to use scouts to ferry slaves around? Or build a lab in every province with a temple? Or put temples in your blood hunting provinces?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You only need a temple for them to sacrifce and automatically restock.

Slygar March 14th, 2004 03:31 AM

Re: Blood Magic: The Truth behind those Fruiters that Practice it
 
Hmm.. This relates to Dom 1, as I havent tried it with Dom 2 yet since I wont own that game till battle speed is adjustable (heheh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) Anyways, playing as Ermor, I had a Dusk Elder that came with level 1 in blood magic. I empowered him to 2 and since they are stealthy, had him go harvest slaves from a highly populated enemy territory, with a SDR. Now, my question is: does that still increase unrest there, even though you dont control the territory?

Yossar March 14th, 2004 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Yossar:
Kind of off topic but as Mictlan do you need a lab to make your blood sacrificers automatically restocking slaves? If the answer is yes (which I think it is) do you have to use scouts to ferry slaves around? Or build a lab in every province with a temple? Or put temples in your blood hunting provinces?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You only need a temple for them to sacrifce and automatically restock. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Oh good. That also means that pooling slaves doesn't take theirs away then?

Yossar March 14th, 2004 08:31 AM

Re: Blood Magic: The Truth behind those Fruiters that Practice it
 
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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Yossar:
Kind of off topic but as Mictlan do you need a lab to make your blood sacrificers automatically restocking slaves? If the answer is yes (which I think it is) do you have to use scouts to ferry slaves around? Or build a lab in every province with a temple? Or put temples in your blood hunting provinces?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You only need a temple for them to sacrifce and automatically restock. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You sure about that? I just gave an independent priest 6 slaves and sent him off to a temple. He sacrificed 2 per turn and when he ran out he just stopped.

Edit: Tried it a couple more times with the independent priest and a national priest and he never restocks at just a temple.

[ March 14, 2004, 07:07: Message edited by: Yossar ]

GavinWheeler March 14th, 2004 09:47 PM

Re: Blood Magic: The Truth behind those Fruiters that Practice it
 
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Originally posted by Spacepain:
To be quite frank, considering the amount of time that is needed micro-ing all of those little blood mages, we should start a fund for research of an ethanol equivalent to blood.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I can assure you that many medical students worldwide are working hard to find out just how much of their blood can indeed be replaced with ethanol. I'm sure they would appreciate any funds you could spare to help in this vital research, however! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

The easiest way I found with Mictlan to gather blood slaves and still auto-sacrifice at temples was:

- have bloodhunters in a province with a lab
- have the bloodhunters in each province grouped together. That is, select one, then hold 'control' while you select the others. You should end up with all of them selected, and (until you split up that group somehow) selecting any one of the bloodunters would select the whole 'group'.
- each round you just have to go to your blood hunting provinces, click on one bloodhunter to select them all, then use the single key command to dump all bloodslaves into the lab ('Z' I think)

Psitticine March 14th, 2004 11:50 PM

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Unless things have changed, you need a lab in the province as well as a temple to auto-restock with sacrifices.


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