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Gandalf Parker April 12th, 2004 08:59 PM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
Everyone is covering the good stuff. I would just like to add that Marignon Assassins can do alot to soften up many of the independent provinces (avoid the ones with knights).

Give them the Dragon Helm and they do even better. And if you are going with some god that grants extra blessings then consider giving your assassin that shroud which automatically gives blessing to non-sacred commanders.

Pocus April 12th, 2004 09:07 PM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
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Originally posted by wolfkinsov:
A lot of the things mentioned are great ideas, but someone said that Blessed knights are not good early game strategy, but I have found that just 5 of them backed by 30-40 crossbows and I wipe most independents up to scale 6.

Plus the Witch Hunter is a good combat mage and only 110. Cast ethereal and 2 Fire can really deal damage. Best thing about Marigon is there are many ways to play it.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">WH cost 150. Still a good mage for body etheral and astral fire (with some help)

Tricon April 12th, 2004 10:25 PM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Everyone is covering the good stuff. I would just like to add that Marignon Assassins can do alot to soften up many of the independent provinces (avoid the ones with knights).

Give them the Dragon Helm and they do even better. And if you are going with some god that grants extra blessings then consider giving your assassin that shroud which automatically gives blessing to non-sacred commanders.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Excellent point, the assassins are another veeery useful weapon in the arsenal of marignon.

wolfkinsov April 13th, 2004 12:10 AM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
Hmm, I hear you about friendly fire but I just have not seen it with this setup. I mean I water 9 and Nature 4 my knight engage closes and crossbows firing rear or archer and both set diagonally opposite each other and with only 5 knights that can hold whole units of infantry they almost never get hit. Yes Air 9 is good and would work just the same. But I am just not taking any significant friendly fire. Remember I just said this worked really well to mop up indies at 5-6 level. Late game might be different.

Spacepain April 13th, 2004 03:04 AM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
My soul ire with flagellents is that only 5 can be produced per turn. Any work arounds for this?

Graeme Dice April 13th, 2004 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by Spacepain:
My soul ire with flagellents is that only 5 can be produced per turn. Any work arounds for this?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Raise your dominion strength. As explained in the manual on page 23 you can only recruit as many non-commander sacred troops in each fortress as your current dominion strength.

archaeolept April 13th, 2004 03:28 AM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
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Originally posted by Spacepain:
My soul ire with flagellents is that only 5 can be produced per turn. Any work arounds for this?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">lol, the amazing thing w/ flagellants is that they can be made at each of your castles in number equal to your dominion str (base dominion + #temples/5). This allows the creation of vast numbers fairly easily.

Spacepain April 14th, 2004 12:20 AM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
Alright, that makes a ton of sense. Also, what are these flaming xbows and flamings bows I hear so much about?

archaeolept April 14th, 2004 12:29 AM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
Enchant 4

Vynd April 14th, 2004 01:07 AM

Re: The strenghts of Marignon
 
To elaborate, the Flaming Arrows come from a level 4 Enchantment spell that requires a power of 3 in Fire Magic, and one fire gem. All of this is pretty easy to come by if you're Marignon, and Crossbowmen are among your cheapest units anyway, so the spell can give pretty impressive results.


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