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Blofeld April 25th, 2004 03:56 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
One of the coolest aspects of MoM was its heroic fantasy feel. Experienced heroes with some magic stuff and spells became really uber, able to conquer cities on their own.
Spell Chaos Channels was really cool, too. nothing beats mutated fire-breathing halflings http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Sadly, strategic AI sucked big time.

rabelais April 25th, 2004 03:56 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
My favorite MoM munchkinism was to max sorcery, and then get yet MORE sorcery, plus the relevant skills (concentrator? I forget, been MANY years)in the node battles.

Eventually you could cast sorcery spells at 0% cost. Free that is.

A storm drake every turn in combat... plus god knows what other abuses...forever!!!!

It was silly, but quite a powertrip...

Dom2 is better than MoM, no question.

The possibility of bug fixes alone puts it in a whole different Category. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Blessed are the developers, for they keep all of us happily nonproductive.

Plus if they ever need anything (money, shrines etc.), they have a whole string (forum?) of addicts to hit up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif


Rabe the Strategy Sycophant

Anglachel April 25th, 2004 04:05 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Is it possible to get a Version of Master of Magic that works for windows xp? I'll check out that site Gandalf mentions.

PrinzMegaherz April 25th, 2004 04:28 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Halfling Slingers of doom.

They owned nearly every standard unit in the game due to their luck. I love them :-)

Quote:

s it possible to get a Version of Master of Magic that works for windows xp? I'll check out that site Gandalf mentions.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If that is what you whish, here you go: Dosbox

Emulates a complete computer that is capable of running most of the older games... I'm using it for Mom, Dungeon MAster and Star Control, also the Last one got some graphical errors

[ April 25, 2004, 15:30: Message edited by: PrinzMegaherz ]

Cheezeninja April 25th, 2004 04:39 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Hafling slingers of Doom were awesome! Haflings were great for a giant happy food producing population, but you needed another race for wizards.

[ April 25, 2004, 19:29: Message edited by: Cheezeninja ]

Endoperez April 25th, 2004 04:43 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:

If that is what you whish, here you go: Dosbox

Emulates a complete computer that is capable of running most of the older games... I'm using it for Mom, Dungeon MAster and Star Control, also the Last one got some graphical errors

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I posted the same at ADOM newsgroup a while ago, but someone there told me that MoM works too slow with DosBox. He gave link to an AbandonLoader in return, and it runs both MoM and Betrayal at Krondor. It seems the latter one is harder to get to work...
AbandonLoader can be downloaded from that page, but I haven't tested it myself...

Norfleet April 25th, 2004 06:23 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rabelais:
My favorite MoM munchkinism was to max sorcery, and then get yet MORE sorcery, plus the relevant skills (concentrator? I forget, been MANY years)in the node battles.

Eventually you could cast sorcery spells at 0% cost. Free that is.

A storm drake every turn in combat... plus god knows what other abuses...forever!!!!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You couldn't get Sky Drakes in combat, since they were a ritual summons, but you COULD get an INFINITE number of sky drakes, attack anything within range, and then immediately disband them to avoid paying upkeep. Nothing could survive.

You COULD, however, get an infinite quantity of battlefield summons, like air elementals and phantasmals.

And let's not forget invisible flying warships. The AI totally did not know how to cope with that, he'd just sit there as rocks fell from the sky and slaughtered his men.

Scott Hebert April 25th, 2004 07:39 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Ah, MoM.

My favorite strategies were, in no particular order:

1. Myrran Halflings. Halflings with Adamantium kill everything dead. Missile immunity does not help you.

2. Wraith rush.

3. Torin rush.

Pocus April 25th, 2004 07:58 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
I miss the exploration aspect that was present in MoM (discovering new uncharted lands, exploring the small dungeons giving goodies for a tough fight).

I liked also the idea of the lair which released from time to time a party of neutral rampaging units.

Anglachel April 25th, 2004 08:24 PM

Re: OT: Flowers for the grave of MoM.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Endoperez:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by PrinzMegaherz:

If that is what you whish, here you go: Dosbox

Emulates a complete computer that is capable of running most of the older games... I'm using it for Mom, Dungeon MAster and Star Control, also the Last one got some graphical errors

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I posted the same at ADOM newsgroup a while ago, but someone there told me that MoM works too slow with DosBox. He gave link to an AbandonLoader in return, and it runs both MoM and Betrayal at Krondor. It seems the latter one is harder to get to work...
AbandonLoader can be downloaded from that page, but I haven't tested it myself...
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You are right about Dosbox being slow running Master of Magic but when I try to run MOM on AbandonLoader it gives me that "You must have 2700k of expanded memory" message without running the game at all. Anyone familiar with this that can help me out? Thanks for answering.

Edit: Ok, figured it out by reading the newbie guide to dosbox more closely. Running smoothly now.

[ April 25, 2004, 23:19: Message edited by: Anglachel ]


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