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Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

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Originally posted by Zapmeister:
Each time I get knocked out of a game I've created, I learn something. Not something about how to play better, unfortunately, but something about the parameters of games I enjoy playing.

So here I go again. I intend to create a game on the mosehansen server (if there's room) to be played on The World map. If practical, I'll edit the .map file (as Norfleet did in his World game) to remove undesirable starting locations.

The registration procedure is as follows. Claim your nation here in this thread, and send the password you will use on your pretender to the non-playing registrar at martin.gregory@bigpond.com

State your mosehansen login ID, the nation you're playing, and the password. Martin will use this password to move you to computer control if you drop out.

EDIT: You will be deemed to have dropped out if you stale two turns in a row.

When registration closes, I'll create the game and you may upload your pretender. If anyone uploads that hasn't registered, I'll abort and repeat until we only have registered players. If anyone uses a pretender password different from the one they register, I shall hate them forever.

The turnaraound shall be 24 hours, HOF=15, research=difficult, sites=50, indeps=6, the rest default. The house rules are:

1) No Vampire Queens unless you play Black Forest Ulm;
2) Clam limit = Half the turn number (see the Orania Semiblitz thread if you don't know what this means)
3) Fortress limit = 1/3 provinces held at the time of building (rounded up)
4) No-one with a Shrapnel alias starting with N and ending with T may play. This can't be enforced, of course, so we just gotta hope ...

Excellent houserules Zapmeister.

I was going to start a new game myself in about a week or so, with very similar rules (including rule number 4 of course http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ). But since you have done it already, I might as well join your game now, and will start next game of my own some other time.

I would like to take Vanheim in your game.

BTW one suggestion about possible additional houserule, if you will like it Zapmeister. How about

5. Serious players only, no game quiters. If you have some RL emmergency that would make it impossible for you to continue playing your nation, you promise to do your best to find a human sub for you, as well as give all other players as much advance warning as possible. But no quiting because you are losing or because you had a bad start. Everybody agree to play to the end, no matter bitter or sweet one.

(Of course when at the endgame everybody agree that the winner is 100% detirmined than the game does not have to be finished)

IMHO this proposed rule could be especially relivent to the huge world map that you have here.

Also maybe we could play a bit smaller map? If it's not too late and if you, as well as all other registered players would like it of course. It could be the bad luck, but only one of the world-map games that I've played so far was finished (kindof http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), the rest were abondoned for the varaity of different reasons. And when we did fininsh it took VERY long time.

In any case, no matter if you will like these proposed additions/changes or not, I will be happy to play in your game.

[ May 25, 2004, 16:16: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

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Originally posted by Zapmeister:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Esben Mose Hansen:
[qb]If you don't want Norfleet in the game, why not just say so? I think he would respect that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

He has said in another thread that he may not.
A hard guy to figure out, for sure.

<hr /></blockquote>I agree. I certanly wouldn't put it below him to try to sneak into the game where he is not wanted.

[ May 25, 2004, 16:20: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

*sigh* Vanheim seems to be very popular on this server. In our little gaming group, the only one who sometimes uses them is nice enough to leave them for me...

Well, can I have Ulm then? If I cannot be the ***** queen, I will be the vampire queen.

[edit]

Nevermind, Ulm is already taken too. Ah well... Marignon?

[ May 25, 2004, 16:51: Message edited by: Yvelina ]

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:
I agree. I certanly wouldn't put it below him to try to sneak into the game where he is not wanted.

If you had bothered to state in the original post that I was specifically not requested, instead of making the game actually sound ATTRACTIVE, I would not have snuck into your game at all. The reason I did that had nothing to do with trying to get into something where I'm not wanted in.

More importantly, I don't *WANT* to be in your silly game!

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

I would like to play Caelum.

By the way, I do not want to be seen as a whiner,
but could you guys try not to claim a race at
the end of the middle paragraph of a three page
post? It's kind of hard to see which races have
already been taken.

Something which would be even better is if the
thread originator could keep a list of the races
that have already been claimed.

Something like:

Ulm - Ebsen Mose Hansen
Abysya - Cohen
Arcocephalus - Daynarr
Vanheim - Stormbinder
Marignon - Yvelina
Caelum - Petar

If you are not on my list, shame on you. You
managed to hide your race claim real well :-p

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

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Originally posted by Norfleet:

More importantly, I don't *WANT* to be in your silly game! [/QB]

Delightful! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Of course I don't trust you one bit, since you already said openly that you might send your other "apprentices" (aliases) to my future games, in which I would specifically forbid you from participating, Last time we have talked on IRC. Not to mention all your other lies.

But nevertheless your current attitude pleases me, so don't forget it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Besides I think Zapmesiter did everything to prevent your lame gameplay style - limit on clams, limit on castles, no VQ. "No Norfleet" rule number 4 seems almost excessive. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Anyway, this is a new game thread, not another forum for discussing Norfleet, there was enough of that recently. If you want to continue this line of discussion do it somewhere else. Zen clearly indicated that he had enough of that.

[ May 25, 2004, 19:49: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

Well, I hope you have fun finding out how utterly impossible it is to try and defend anything without castles, given that PD is woefully inadequate.

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

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Originally posted by Stormbinder:
BTW one suggestion about possible additional houserule, if you will like it Zapmeister. How about

5. Serious players only, no game quiters. If you have some RL emmergency that would make it impossible for you to continue playing your nation, you promise to do your best to find a human sub for you, as well as give all other players as much advance warning as possible. But no quiting because you are losing or because you had a bad start. Everybody agree to play to the end, no matter bitter or sweet one.

I don't want to do this one for two reasons. Firstly, I think it's a bit late to be adding more house rules at this point. Secondly, and more importantly, I don't actually think it's a good rule.

If a player is losing and has lost interest in the game, there's no point in forcing them to submit turns. They're not having fun. They're probably submitting minimal orders, possibly even just standing still waiting to be eliminated. The AI would probably do a better job.

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Also maybe we could play a bit smaller map? If it's not too late and if you, as well as all other registered players would like it of course. It could be the bad luck, but only one of the world-map games that I've played so far was finished (kindof http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ), the rest were abondoned for the varaity of different reasons. And when we did fininsh it took VERY long time.

I'll decide the map when I see how many registrations there are. I hope everyone is remembering to lodge passwords with the registrar.

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In any case, no matter if you will like these proposed additions/changes or not, I will be happy to play in your game.

Very pleased to have you.

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

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Originally posted by Tuidjy:
Something which would be even better is if the
thread originator could keep a list of the races
that have already been claimed.

OK, will do. I'll edit your list into the original post, and try to keep it up to date.

Re: MP Game - Zap\'s New game with House Rules

I have a question. Why is it that most games started on this server seem to have difficult, or very difficult research? This seems to affect the balance in favor of races with good troops, and to make things rather hard for races which rely primarily on their mages.

Not that I am complaining, having chosen Marignon. :-)