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Norfleet May 26th, 2004 08:32 PM

Re: Utterdark and Second Sun
 
Quote:

Originally posted by guybrush threepwood:
Well... Actually the spectrum of light from the sun is peaked around the visible area (otherwise evolution would have had some explaining to do http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sure, the NORMAL sun does that, but Second Sun is inherently unnatural. More importantly, since it doesn't actually cause units to explode into flames or go blind, like the real sun does, it's probably a big IR lamp.

guybrush threepwood May 26th, 2004 08:47 PM

Re: Utterdark and Second Sun
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by guybrush threepwood:
Well... Actually the spectrum of light from the sun is peaked around the visible area (otherwise evolution would have had some explaining to do http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sure, the NORMAL sun does that, but Second Sun is inherently unnatural. More importantly, since it doesn't actually cause units to explode into flames or go blind, like the real sun does, it's probably a big IR lamp. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

The spell text actually says "The caster creates a huge ball of fire in the sky. This second sun will always shine, day and night, ..."

But of course, a huge ball of fire COULD emit mainly IR light...

OK, this is getting silly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

atul May 26th, 2004 09:26 PM

Re: Utterdark and Second Sun
 
Actually there would be nothing inconsistent about a patch of darkness blocking visible light and heating things. It is happening even now for real, ever heard of pollution?-p Some studies say the world has become dimmer for it in recent decades, and... ...I think it might be best not to discuss global climate change on public forum in internet... I've seen where it can take you.

Dark things absorb visible light and heat up, releasing IR radiation. All very real-life physics, not many inconsistensies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Except, of course, that magically created second sun and forced eternal darkness.

Norfleet May 26th, 2004 09:56 PM

Re: Utterdark and Second Sun
 
Quote:

Originally posted by atul:
Some studies say the world has become dimmer for it in recent decades
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hey, that's great news! First good news I've heard about pollution so far. Freaking sunlight. I hate freaking sunlight. So I guess we can have our cake and eat it, too: Get rid of the annoying sunlight, keep the warmth. What could be better?

HotNifeThruButr May 27th, 2004 01:13 AM

Re: Utterdark and Second Sun
 
Looking at it from a more fantastic and magical way, I think it would work like so:

Utterdark forms a shield around the world to keep out the sun's rays. Second Sun, after it's cast, may do the following...

A. Overpower Utterdark. If a mace struck a shield enough times or hard enough, it will splinter and shatter, so Second Sun would dispel Utterdark.

B. Be blocked out by the shield, so Utterdark dispels Second Sun.

C. Since Second Sun is a FIRE spell, dealing with heat, instead of an ASTRAL spell, dealing with light and celestial bodies (sounds like a description one might use in a porno... *shrug*). It wouldn't conflict in anyway with Utterdark, making it, in the words of Cheezeninja,"dark and hot... extra crappy."

Cohen May 27th, 2004 01:57 AM

Utterdark and Second Sun
 
How does these spells work toghter?

Second Sun should improve the light of the world, making night disappearing.

Utterdark mantle the world with obscurity.

They contrast?


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