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Arralen June 7th, 2004 10:38 AM

Re: Abysia and Death Scale
 
It's the deviation from the "prefered value" that's results in a income reduction ... .

So Abysia is at 100% at heat-3.

Yossar June 7th, 2004 11:20 AM

Re: Abysia and Death Scale
 
On a small, quick map Abysia can probably tolerate death more than most nations. But taking death of a large, slow map is rarely a good choice for anyone.

PDF June 7th, 2004 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by mnoracle:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by PDF:

With vanilla game settings I now suppose Death1 or 2 is a viable choice in order to boost Magic scale.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's a bad move to boost Magic Scale beyond +1. Since then chanse to get Horror increases seriously. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, didn't know that either ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
Do you have the chance/formula ?
It has to be seriously high to make Magic+2/3 not good for Abysia - they sooo desperately need RPs in early game ... For BoH it ain't a problem, they can't have positive Magic scale ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Teraswaerto June 7th, 2004 02:33 PM

Re: Abysia and Death Scale
 
Even with +3 magic Horror attacks are rare enough not to make any difference.

Nagot Gick Fel June 7th, 2004 03:43 PM

Re: Abysia and Death Scale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Yossar:
taking death of a large, slow map is rarely a good choice for anyone.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's not so important on site-rich maps. By the time the income loss due to your deathrate becomes significant, your gem income should more than make up for that. Now consider that a player who chose a death scale will have more design points to magically enhance his pretender just so he can use these gems to good effect.

It's even less important for Abysia who, as a blood nation, has an extra form of income in bloodslaves, and this one isn't affected by any game setting.

Cohen June 7th, 2004 03:48 PM

Re: Abysia and Death Scale
 
Mmmm here one of the reasons because I often got bashed with Abysya ...

I take growth to compensate a little blood hunting ...
Well if I take death1 unless than growth1 I've 80 points more, 120 with Death2 ^^

Nagot Gick Fel June 7th, 2004 03:51 PM

Re: Abysia and Death Scale
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PDF:
With vanilla game settings I now suppose Death1 or 2 is a viable choice in order to boost Magic scale.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I always pick Death +3 religiously with Abysia. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

mnoracle June 7th, 2004 04:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Teraswaerto:
Even with +3 magic Horror attacks are rare enough not to make any difference.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Striking difference from my Last game my Slayer hero was attacked by horrors 4 stright turns, when he was in magic +3 province, for +1 magic provincies he wasn't touched by horrors for more then 30 turns!
I can't tell exact numbers but high magic -> much higher chanse of horror attacks.

As for growth/death i'm taking +0. It's not a wise choise to take growth with abysia obviously, but i don't like death eather. Blood hunting reduces population pretty fast and with standard richness/magic freq. settings on the mid sized maps you do have to have gold for mages and temples. (It's pretty important to have high dominion). And with diminishing population it's not as easy task as it seems.

[ June 07, 2004, 15:27: Message edited by: mnoracle ]

Cohen June 7th, 2004 04:22 PM

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Well perhaps horrors were sent by someone else, or you gave him a magic item attracting horrors?

I never heard about magic scale attracting horrors.

mnoracle June 7th, 2004 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Cohen:
Well perhaps horrors were sent by someone else, or you gave him a magic item attracting horrors?

I never heard about magic scale attracting horrors.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sure it was due to attracting item, but isn't it pitty to lose your hero with soul contact due to horror attack?
As for sent by some one else - Slayer has very high Stelth rating http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Just for comparision, Horrors loves Kugi so IIRC all my heroes with Kugi Gifts Lasts no more then 5-6 turns even in +1 magical scale. I suppose for +3 scale it'll be instant death!

[ June 07, 2004, 15:33: Message edited by: mnoracle ]


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