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sachmo August 2nd, 2004 07:28 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
Welcome to the dark side, buddy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

I'm looking forward to your mods.

Gandalf Parker August 2nd, 2004 09:05 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
Now we need to get David G hooked so we can get his images instead of just modding the old ones.
MUHAHAHahhahahaha!
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1004.gif

[ August 02, 2004, 20:06: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Norfleet August 2nd, 2004 09:26 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
You download demos? I never bother with demos: They're never a compelling example of why I should buy the game. I mean, sure, you can look at it, and like what you see in the demo....but if that's what I like, why do I need to buy the game? That's clearly not what I'm purchasing the game for. It's like going to an automobile showroom, and being told you can only test-drive the "demo car", which is like the actual car, only missing all of the features that you actually want to buy the thing for, such as brakes and a steering wheel. Or tires, for that matter, since the demo car is jacked up on concrete blocks in the display lot.

[ August 02, 2004, 20:27: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

Daynarr August 2nd, 2004 10:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
You download demos? I never bother with demos: They're never a compelling example of why I should buy the game. I mean, sure, you can look at it, and like what you see in the demo....but if that's what I like, why do I need to buy the game? That's clearly not what I'm purchasing the game for. It's like going to an automobile showroom, and being told you can only test-drive the "demo car", which is like the actual car, only missing all of the features that you actually want to buy the thing for, such as brakes and a steering wheel. Or tires, for that matter, since the demo car is jacked up on concrete blocks in the display lot.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">There he goes again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
Demos don't miss ALL features you are buying game for - they only miss SOME features you buy game for. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Gandalf Parker August 2nd, 2004 10:49 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
I rarely play a game I dont demo first. Most demos dont leave off anything important to knowing if the game is any good. Or to use Norfleets example: what do I care if the car they let me drive isnt the same color and doesnt have the CD changer that I plan to get in mine? Thats not what I need to make my decision. (I definately wouldnt do business with the shady guy on the streetcorner over such a minor point.) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

[ August 02, 2004, 21:52: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Boron August 2nd, 2004 11:13 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
I rarely play a game I dont demo first. Most demos dont leave off anything important to knowing if the game is any good. Or to use Norfleets example: what do I care if the car they let me drive isnt the same color and doesnt have the CD changer that I plan to get in mine? Thats not what I need to make my decision. (I definately wouldnt do business with the shady guy on the streetcorner over such a minor point.) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">sometimes a demo though can be as a preview to a film . they just show you the best parts and when you buy the game you recognize that it is not much more than the demo .
there are often made special demo levels etc.
so you think you may play 1 level in the demo and the full Version has 50 levels .
then you recognize that the demo level was made with more love than the 50 of the full Version .

fortunately dom 2 works the other way round http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
you just get enough impression to get addicted to buy the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Norfleet August 2nd, 2004 11:20 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
Most demos dont leave off anything important to knowing if the game is any good. Or to use Norfleets example: what do I care if the car they let me drive isnt the same color and doesnt have the CD changer that I plan to get in mine? Thats not what I need to make my decision.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Dom2's demo is missing a lot more than that, though. As you, or maybe somebody else, mentioned, Dom2's demo doesn't give you anything over level 4 research. Since, well, nearly everything USEFUL is above that, this is much closer in form to the demo car which is missing its steering wheel, brakes, and wheels, and is simply jacked up on blocks in the lot so you can see how the seat feels when you sit on it, since you can't actually drive it.

Arryn August 2nd, 2004 11:37 PM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
Norfleet, repeating your (flawed) analogy in two consecutive Posts won't make us believe it more. As for the Dom 2 demo's L4 magic limit's effects, when you bear in mind that the demo only has two small maps and a 40 turn limit, it's not that big a deal. Besides, you've missed the whole point of what Boron and Gandalf have said, which is (more or less) that the demo is meant to give you a taste of the game. It's not intended to be a meal. Sort of like the food samples you get in supermarkets. A nibble so that you can decide if you like the item, but only enough to whet your appetite/desire. If you like what you taste, you buy the product. If not, you spit it out and go on your way without having spent any money. I have bought many games (including Dom 2) after playing their demos, that I would not have bought without having tried the demo. And many games have I bought without a demo much to my regret. Demos are a GOOD thing. You're just grouching for the sheer fun of being ornery. Who're you trying to fool?

Boron August 2nd, 2004 11:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Arryn:
Norfleet, repeating your (flawed) analogy in two consecutive Posts won't make us believe it more. As for the Dom 2 demo's L4 magic limit's effects, when you bear in mind that the demo only has two small maps and a 40 turn limit, it's not that big a deal. Besides, you've missed the whole point of what Boron and Gandalf have said, which is (more or less) that the demo is meant to give you a taste of the game. It's not intended to be a meal. Sort of like the food samples you get in supermarkets. A nibble so that you can decide if you like the item, but only enough to whet your appetite/desire. If you like what you taste, you buy the product. If not, you spit it out and go on your way without having spent any money. I have bought many games (including Dom 2) after playing their demos, that I would not have bought without having tried the demo. And many games have I bought without a demo much to my regret. Demos are a GOOD thing. You're just grouching for the sheer fun of being ornery. Who're you trying to fool?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i think the 40 turn limit of the demo was evil .
spells limited to lvl 4 + only 7 playable races was limitation enough imho.

i was really angry about the 40 turn limit .
i had to wait 1 week until i finally got dominions 2 after i tried the demo and ordered dominions 2 .
so i had to wait a full week for dominions 2 knowing that the demo is only until turn 40 .

that was almost like hell http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

the dominions 1 demo was much better for that http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
in my pain i played that the 1 week until dominions 2 arrived .

[ August 02, 2004, 22:44: Message edited by: Boron ]

NTJedi August 3rd, 2004 12:18 AM

Re: I Was Ripped OFF!
 
What's FUNNY...

the title of the topic is about being Ripped Off yet the author never bought anything. LOL


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