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Nagot Gick Fel August 18th, 2004 06:52 PM

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Thufir said:
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Nagot Gick Fel said:
Inland seems popular for advanced/expert games - not too big, even playing field for everyone because of the wraparound and rather uniform layout. Although it's not really suited if both Atlantis and R'lyeh are in.

Is there any reason Inland would be unsuitable for newbies?

None that I can see.

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In the ingame description Inland says it'll handle 10-15 players - does it still provide a good game at 14/15 players?

Yes. 15 players on Inland means you can expect the closest enemy capital to be ~3 provinces from yours, while still being guaranteed some room to expand because of the way provinces are laid out (~10 provinces, say). IMO that's the 'ideal' setting to teach a newbie the basics: possible early confrontation with another nation while magic is still underdevelopped, and so on.

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Also, with 5 water provinces it would seem advisable not to include either Atlantis or R'lyeh - do players actually go for either of those on Inland?

Inland is OK for 0 or 1 underwater nation. Better pick another map if you have both R'lyeh and Atlantis.

PashaDawg August 18th, 2004 09:44 PM

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It'd also be nice to have more pretty maps that are also good for MP.

That french map on the Illwinter map page is very pretty! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Thufir August 19th, 2004 02:10 AM

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Also, if you plan on a newbie game, make sure to keep a slot for me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

By all means! We're now open for business, and you're certainly welcome to join us - here's the thread:
http://forum.shrapnegames.com/showth...o=&fpart=1

Gandalf Parker August 19th, 2004 01:04 PM

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I feel that its easiest to not discuss maps in terms of their overall province numbers. Talk about province-per-player. Do you feel that a game is best when everyone can take the provinces around their castle, and then have to prepare for war? Or would you rather some wilderness between players. The more wilderness there is, the more it affects the play of some nations.

Here is part of a page called "Map Thoughts" on www.dom2minions.com
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For a player to capture all of the provinces around his castle as a buffer and for resources, we are probably looking at.. 5? There are 17 nations (at this time) so 5*17 would be 85 provinces. Actually, if you fairly consider the land and water nations then the best map should probably be 15*5 or 75 land provinces, and 2*5 or 10 water provinces, to a total of 85.</font>

Down near the end it has some recommended terms ...<font color="blue">
SMALL 5 each, or 85 total provinces. Best done as 75 land and 10 water.
MEDIUM 10 each, or 170 total provinces. Best done as 150 land and 20 water.
LARGE 15 each, or 255 total provinces. Best done as 225 land and 30 water.
HUGE 20 each, or 340 total provinces. Best done as 300 land and 40 water.
EPIC 25 or more each, maybe to the maximum 500 total provinces. Something like 450 land and 50 water.
</font>

And it has links to various places you can get randomly generated maps. Kindof ugly ones but playable. They are done to fill in the gaps if people want to play a new map of a certain size. Especially the really large ones.

Of course these sizes are all figured to allow for all 17 nations to play at once. For fewer players, consider the math rather than the sizes. For only 10 nations a small map will play like a medium sized game. There is alot more discussion on the "Map Thoughts" page

EDITED: Hmmmm not the best batch of maps today. But tomorrow there will be a whole new batch. Or if you want me to I can kick off the generator to randomize them again.


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