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rdouglass August 30th, 2004 05:04 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
If we wake up tomorrow morning we have a victory over death. (...for at least another day anyways...) Its all in your perspective... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Colonel August 30th, 2004 08:48 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
The question in my little thing was, Can there ever be true victory?

Randallw August 31st, 2004 02:30 AM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
Do you mean true victory over the current enemy, terrorists?. Otherwise as I tried to convey destroying your enemy so that they no longer exist is a true victory as they will no longer ever be a threat again.

Ragnarok August 31st, 2004 10:52 AM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
True victory will never come about. Why? Because even if you get rid of the problem, or your enemy, the idea of what they believed is still there. There will come someone in short order that will believe as they did and wish to carry out what they strived to accomplish. It is a never ending cycle. The only way to bring about true victory in that respect is to get rid of the idea that your problem/enemy held completely, but we know that is not possible with the power of mankind.

Karibu August 31st, 2004 11:02 AM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
Actually, George Orwell found a solution to this problem of "idea never vanish". Just read 1984. Those who have read it, know what it takes. Not very pleasant world it would be.

Colonel August 31st, 2004 05:16 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
I mean can there ever be true victory over all life not just your enemies, not just your goals, i mean all life, to understand all, to know all, to be omnipotent. To clarify, Is there any way to be Omnipotent in this life without useing technology.

Ragnarok August 31st, 2004 05:25 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
Simply put: No.

Suicide Junkie August 31st, 2004 05:26 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
Even with technology, you can't win against entropy.

narf poit chez BOOM August 31st, 2004 07:35 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
Entropy is not a physical law, but a physical and energitic drift.

Randallw August 31st, 2004 10:18 PM

Re: OT: What is true victory
 
Quote:

Colonel said:
I mean can there ever be true victory over all life not just your enemies, not just your goals, i mean all life, to understand all, to know all, to be omnipotent. To clarify, Is there any way to be Omnipotent in this life without useing technology.

No, to pursue that path leads to ruin. Only God is omnipotent. It was wishing to become like God that lead to the expulsion from Eden and the Tower of Babel.


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