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Arryn September 1st, 2004 04:20 PM

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reverend said:
I usually use the Omega drivers. They are available for NVidia and ATI at www.omegadrivers.net

That site has been giving me "connection refused" errors for several weeks. Has anyone else had troubles getting to it? [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Bug.gif[/img]

archaeolept September 1st, 2004 04:20 PM

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for refresh rate in XP that is purely microsoft "intentional stupidity". you need a 3rd party refresh rate fix. I use refresh force, but there are others.

as to radeon performance w/ Dom II, well, it is pretty funny http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I don't know what the explanation is. I would expect some strange thing in the engine that Dominions used. For a long time nVidia was so dominant, a lot of devs only bothered using nvidia cards to develop on. This was, of course, actively encouraged by nvidia reps, who also pushed their own nvidia-specific OGL extensions. Its possible that this happened during the creation of the original graphics engine upon which Dom II is based .

Johan K September 1st, 2004 06:40 PM

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Dominions II was not developed with any special graphics card in mind and does not use any non-standard OpenGL commands. So I would blame ATI for not producing decent OpenGL drivers. But I guess they don't care much whether Dominions runs well or not http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif .

archaeolept September 1st, 2004 06:52 PM

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oh sorry johan. I had heard that the basic graphics engine used in Dom II was taken over from somewhere else, and so thought that the original engine (if such there is) might have used those extensions.

while its true ATI hasn't put out the best OGL drivers, its almost comical how poorly the radeons do w/ dominions.

luckily, not being able to run high quality doesn't seem to have affected it's allure http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

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deccan September 1st, 2004 07:05 PM

Re: Display & Other Problems
 
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archaeolept said:
while its true ATI hasn't put out the best OGL drivers, its almost comical how poorly the radeons do w/ dominions.


I've heard people complain about how Dom2 performs poorly on Radeon machines, but I have a laptop with a Radeon Mobility 9600 and it runs very well with fairly high graphics settings. I've ran Omega drivers since first buying the machine though. Just thought I'd point that out.

Arryn September 1st, 2004 07:19 PM

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A few months ago I upgraded from a GF4 4400 to an ASUS Radeon 9600XT and I've seen a very nice performance improvement in every game I play -- except Dom 2. Probably because the only OpenGL game I play is Dom. And cruising the ATI website will quickly show that ATI hasn't given a damn about OpenGL performance -- until the frenzied outcries of Doom 3 players well nigh forced them to do something. (Likely for fear of finally losing the PR battle against nVidia.) Thus the beta 4.9 Catalyst drivers, which ostensibly fix Doom 3's OpenGL performance. As a general rule, I don't install beta drivers, so someone else will have to say whether the 4.9 drivers improve anything, or not. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Hammer.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/WinLogo.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon13.gif[/img] http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/Injured.gif [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon45.gif[/img]

reverend September 1st, 2004 10:27 PM

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Btw. Omega website is back up. They're based on 4.8 catalysts, so most likely no improvement yet.

Yes, ATI is slower under OpenGL. But still. I don't get why a GeForce from Last generation or earlier gets FPS in the 60 range, while an X800Pro gets less than 15 on the same setting...

Let's just wait for "proper" 4.9 drivers...

Arryn September 1st, 2004 10:47 PM

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reverend said:
Btw. Omega website is back up.

Not for me. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img] I still cannot get a response from that site. Do you know of any alternate site that has up-to-date Omega drivers? All the alt sites I've found have files no newer than based upon 4.5. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Arralen September 2nd, 2004 12:23 AM

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May take some time until all Internet Routers have updated their routing tables (from the omegadrives site):

SITE NEWS(08/31/04)
Again, for those who tried to access my site between Sunday and Wednesday, sorry for the downtime, there was a hosting issue again that prevented the site from working, the issue was NEVER fixed by GlobalServers.com, so I changed to a new hosting company.

Arryn September 2nd, 2004 12:38 AM

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Arralen said:
May take some time until all Internet Routers have updated their routing tables (from the omegadrives site): {snip}

Thanks for the info! Explains my inability to access the site. Hard to do if it's down, and also hard to do without DNS data. I'll just try again in a few hours (tomorrow morning).


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