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Edi October 7th, 2004 01:24 PM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
Shark knights are recruitable from at least one site. However, they are also native population for one population type, so you can have them from either source. So looks like you got a triton knight pop province with shark knights as site recruitables.

Edi

Twan October 7th, 2004 01:33 PM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
About the poptypes not listed in the mapedit doc, I've noted :

Poptype
62 Tribal archer (ID123) warrior (124)
Barbarian Chief (141)
63 Tritons (as poptype 31 + triton guard id175)
64 Triton Guard (175), Trooper (517)
Lord (406)
65 Ichtid (974) Ichtid Warrior (975)
66 Vaetti (541) WRider (282) MooseRider (1085)
67 Vaetti (541), Wolf Riders (282), Moose Riders (1085)
Vaetti Chief (283) Hag (913) Dwarven Smith (323)
69 Asmeg (1001)
Asmeg Jarl (1002)
70 Vaetti (id541), Wolf Riders (282), Moose Riders(1085)
Vaetti Chief (283) Hag (913) Svartalf (1010)
71 Troll (518), War Troll (1037)
Troll King (519)
72 Merman (1065)
Merman Cptain (1067)
73 Triton Guard (175), Trooper (517), Knight (1050),
Lord (406)
74 Old Centurion (0)
75+ humans

Edi October 7th, 2004 02:02 PM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
There is a complete list of poptypes and what units are in which poptype in the Unit_ID.xls file you can find on Arryn's site. I made that document, so I'm quite familiar with the poptype issue, and that's why I made the thread.

However, 75+ are not poptypes at all. The range of poptypes runs from 25 to 73, with 74 an unusable template one (that's what seems to be anyway. Assigning 75+ to poptype results in a random poptype being assigned to the province from the possible ones for that terrain. Same if the poptype assignment is lower than 25.

Edi

odd_enuf October 7th, 2004 05:12 PM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
I'm sure I've seen vaetti recruitable once in single player. I'm pretty sure it was on Orania.

odd_enuf

Arryn October 7th, 2004 06:05 PM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
Edi,

On Orania I've seen all the various triton types, and mermen, in the same game. The triton (shark) knights I saw prior to 2.14, BTW (I started the game at 2.12). I've not been paying attention to the other pop types, so I cannot say about the landlubbers.

Edi October 8th, 2004 02:07 AM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
Arryn, there are two types of triton knights: Shark Knights and Triton Knights. The latter ride sea unicorns, have an alicorn attack and recuperation, and I haven't seen those until post-2.14. The Shark knights have been available all along. I haven't seen mermen ever, but that's due to statistical probabilities and sample size, apparently.

Odd_enuf, do you remember which type of vaetti it was? Just vaetti, vaetti and trolls, or one of the two vaetti + dwarves combos?

Edi

Cainehill October 8th, 2004 02:09 AM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 

Yeh, I've seen the Shark Knights - my squid squad wound up with -1 losses and the acquisition of one in a province. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gifBelieve it was 1.12 at the time.

odd_enuf October 8th, 2004 02:50 AM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
if i remeber corectly, it was vaetti, wolf riders, and trolls

odd_enuf

Edi October 8th, 2004 04:07 AM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
Yeah, that's the active one, always has been. The other three and the all-trolls poptype are not, afaik.

Edi

Arryn October 8th, 2004 06:28 AM

Re: Unusual Population Types
 
Quote:

Edi said:
Arryn, there are two types of triton knights: Shark Knights and Triton Knights. The latter ride sea unicorns, have an alicorn attack and recuperation, and I haven't seen those until post-2.14. The Shark knights have been available all along. I haven't seen mermen ever, but that's due to statistical probabilities and sample size, apparently.

Okay. I've checked all my games again and I don't see the Triton Knights. However, I have one Orania game that (so far) has two mermen provinces. Guess the sea unicorns don't like me since I'm not a virgin, but I have an affinity for merfolk, as I (much like a siren) enjoy leading folks astray. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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