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Gandalf Parker January 26th, 2005 08:14 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
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Gandalf Parker said:
Isnt that if you download BitTorrent to get it
and download a RAR unpacker to install it?

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif You post this meaningless stuff again? Windows doesn't have advanced technologies included in it, so of course you have to download programs...

In both posts I thought it was worth mentioning. Sorry if I ruined your waiting for the question so you could make your comment

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Edit by SJ - repaired UBB quote code

Fyron January 26th, 2005 08:48 PM

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It seemed as if you were dredging up that strange distaste for having to install new programs to make use of a file...

Gandalf Parker January 27th, 2005 12:09 AM

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It seemed as if you were dredging up that strange distaste for having to install new programs to make use of a file...

I dont have a distaste for it. I already have most things loaded which anyone can come up with a need for.I have a distaste for requiring it. Especially if it comes with an attitude.

I will happily continue to provide hosting and simple http link for any files (zip or rar) anyone cares to offer.

Fyron January 27th, 2005 02:57 AM

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There is no "attitude" involved in offering such files.

Mephisto January 27th, 2005 07:03 AM

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As Gandalf said. Http and zip are common standards on the net. They might not be the best and you, Imperator Fyron, have every right to try to alter them. But I have every right to find this inconvinient. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Gandalf Parker said:
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Imperator Fyron said:
It seemed as if you were dredging up that strange distaste for having to install new programs to make use of a file...

I don't have a distaste for it. I already have most things loaded which anyone can come up with a need for. I have a distaste for requiring it. Especially if it comes with an attitude.

I will happily continue to provide hosting and simple http link for any files (zip or rar) anyone cares to offer.


Gandalf Parker January 27th, 2005 12:16 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
There is no "attitude" involved in offering such files.

Not in offering the files, of course not. Files should be offered and in as many methods/formats as possible.

But it is best to mention that BitTorrent and WinRAR (or something equal) are also required and available at xxxxx links along with the offer. Rather than wait for the person who is seeking the mods to have to ask to allow for some "duh, of course" response about windows.

Gandalf Parker January 27th, 2005 12:22 PM

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Suicide Junkie said:
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Gandalf Parker said:
Isnt that if you download BitTorrent to get it
and download a RAR unpacker to install it?

Presuming you don't already have those...
They're almost basic net tools these days.

You can go and get them the slow HTTP/ZIP way, but why would you unless you're forced to?
BT and RAR are the fast lanes on the information superhighway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Makes sense to me. If I already had those then it would be a very fast and efficient way to get them for everyone involved. Of course if I need to go get them first then Im not sure there is an advantage other than to say "well you might as well since you will need them for other things" but I havent really seen the option come up often enough to feel unfanatical in making that recommendation to someone that doesnt have them yet. It is moving up but at present I would say at BEST the two methods might be considered equal in number so offering both ways still seems to make sense rather than push it.

Fyron January 27th, 2005 03:35 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:
But it is best to mention that BitTorrent and WinRAR (or something equal) are also required and available at xxxxx links along with the offer. Rather than wait for the person who is seeking the mods to have to ask to allow for some "duh, of course" response about windows.

The information is provided on the site. Or rather, a link from the site to the thread here on Shrapnel with instructions on how to get started is provided.

Bandwidth savings since switching all Image Mod packs and my large mods hosted on SE.net from zip to rar have been quite noticeable, and there has been no significant decrease in the number of downloads, rather an increase unrelated to the formats. I created the bit torrent tracker specifically to shave off more from my bandwidth usage... It incidentally allows the hosting of large files that would suck up tons of bandwidth were they hosted directly.

Suicide Junkie January 27th, 2005 04:13 PM

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Gandalf Parker said:
Of course if I need to go get them first then Im not sure there is an advantage other than to say "well you might as well since you will need them for other things" but I havent really seen the option come up often enough to feel unfanatical in making that recommendation to someone that doesnt have them yet.

Downloading winRAR plus the RAR version of any imagemodpack (except the combat pack of course) is less than downloading the ZIP version.
All 3 P&N starfury campaigns RARed are 10% smaller than just one campaign ZIPped.

The numbers are there. Anyone with a slow connection will save gobs of time. With a fast connection, its not so important, but RAR even does zip files better than winZIP and with less bloat to boot.

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Next time you go to install winZip, just get winRAR instead. You'll never miss it.

Gandalf Parker January 27th, 2005 04:21 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
Bandwidth savings since switching all Image Mod packs and my large mods hosted on SE.net from zip to rar have been quite noticeable, and there has been no significant decrease in the number of downloads, rather an increase unrelated to the formats. I created the bit torrent tracker specifically to shave off more from my bandwidth usage... It incidentally allows the hosting of large files that would suck up tons of bandwidth were they hosted directly.

Well I dont have a bandwidth concern as far as hosting files.

Just curious.. does your logs show how many people have clicked on those links and downloaded the .torrent file (which Im guessing does them no good)


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