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Suicide Junkie February 23rd, 2005 06:12 PM
Re: Can a player take over a Neutral AI Empire?
 
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PvK said:
Hmm. Hmm. Can they just not use the Warp command? What if you give them a Move To order to a destination in another system which they already have a map of?
The ship won't make it.
I'm not sure if they will move to the warppoint and then sit there, of it they will ignore the order completely, though.

geoschmo February 23rd, 2005 06:14 PM
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This is why "Taking over for a Neutral Race" is so high up on the "Ways to make SE4 more challenging" list http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
Ya, I tried this once. I did actually manage to get another race to trade me a planet. It got a little monotonous waiting on other races to discover me though.

Alneyan February 23rd, 2005 06:17 PM
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The attack-wormhole order does not work either, but it does drain your supplies. This is the closest I got to a working warp engine, but it still didn't quite work.

PvK February 23rd, 2005 06:20 PM
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I guess they need an Intel mission which sparks the spatial rupture event on their own ships... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PvK

geoschmo February 23rd, 2005 06:38 PM
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PvK said:
I guess they need an Intel mission which sparks the spatial rupture event on their own ships... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PvK
Heh, I suggested that to Malfador once as a way to incorporate non-warp point travel into SE4. If you could use the spatial event against your own ships, but have it directed to a particular system instead of just randomly sending you somewhere in the quadrant. Didn't get anywhere with it though obviously. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Atrocities February 23rd, 2005 07:22 PM
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geoschmo said:
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PvK said:
I guess they need an Intel mission which sparks the spatial rupture event on their own ships... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

PvK
Heh, I suggested that to Malfador once as a way to incorporate non-warp point travel into SE4. If you could use the spatial event against your own ships, but have it directed to a particular system instead of just randomly sending you somewhere in the quadrant. Didn't get anywhere with it though obviously. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
I too have also suggested to malfador at least once or twice about having other travel options in addition to Warp-point travel. However, one of the things that is unique to the Space Empires franchise ware the Warp Points, so they will most likely remain as the primary mode of intersystem travel.

luke_slovakian February 24th, 2005 12:09 AM
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I was playing my friend on hot seat (demo). And it was 4 turns into the game and a neutral empire frigate came to my sector. It was pretty weird.

A nuetral ship in my sector. And then he sent a colony ship but after those two ships he never left his system. Weird

PvK February 24th, 2005 12:22 AM
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Atrocities said:
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However, one of the things that is unique to the Space Empires franchise ware the Warp Points, so they will most likely remain as the primary mode of intersystem travel.
BTW, warp points aren't unique to Space Empires. See Pax Imperia, Independence War, MOO2 ...

PvK

PvK February 24th, 2005 12:23 AM
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luke_slovakian said:
I was playing my friend on hot seat (demo). And it was 4 turns into the game and a neutral empire frigate came to my sector. It was pretty weird.

A nuetral ship in my sector. And then he sent a colony ship but after those two ships he never left his system. Weird
That's interesting... maybe certain AI modes are immune to the restriction?

PvK

Makinus February 24th, 2005 08:41 AM
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or maybe the 2 ships were sent in the same spatial rupture? or there happened 2 spatial ruptures with the same race?


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