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Starhawk May 15th, 2005 05:05 PM

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Well AT actually I greatly enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2 of Andromeda until they fired Robert Wolfe because they wanted the show "Made more understandable" I.E. dumbed down for the idiots watching it that didn't get the plot (rolleyes) don't those idiots think that if we didn't get the plot we wouldn't be watching it!?

To be Blunt Braga doesn't give a damn in hell about ENT he's already got his writing stint on a new Sci-Fi series that will premier late this year on Fox.....and it shows that to him the last few eps of ENT were just "ah damn I have to finish this" so he just blew it to hell.

Okay THEY KNEW they were boarded by aliens yet the "So far" fast acting MACO defense teams didn't bother showing up? and Trip this brilliant young engineer couldn't think of anything better to do but blow hismelf up WHAT THE HELL!?
And it was an OLD episode of TNG to boot why didn't they at least show it from an EE point of view say....during Insurrection where Picard had to question the whole "Taking orders vs doing what is write" thing?

And it was just an ignoble slap to the face that Trip survived the Xinid incident to be killed by the "Alien Mob".....and Archer was like "Dang that sucks" but not much else they were coworkers for over a decade by that point and very good friends and the best they got was an "Oh damn" I feel sorry for those poor actors they are all pretty good actors (Blalock still bugs me) and they deservered a better send off.

Well on the positive side for some of them anyway:
Backula is going back to stage and show
Linda Park is moving on to big screen movies
The guy who plays Malcom is going back to England to act there.

The others I don't know about but I wish them the best in getting a new show, movie or whatever because they definately deserve it.

Captain Kwok May 17th, 2005 01:27 PM

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It might have made an interesting regular episode if some adjustments were made to the story, but for a series finale it was horrible choice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Atrocities May 17th, 2005 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Captain Kwok said:
It might have made an interesting regular episode if some adjustments were made to the story, but for a series finale it was horrible choice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Well said.

Iron Giant May 18th, 2005 12:35 PM

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I got the distinct impression that the writers were saying,

"So, then fans and actors don't like our brilliant writing, huh? Well we'll show YOU!

We'll kill off a popular character with no emotions shown,
we'll setup a huge speech for 3 seasons about the birth of the Federation then cut it off
then we'll remind everyone that we USED to have a good show by putting this puny little Enterprise show in the context of our only real success, TNG. So THERE!"

Urendi Maleldil May 18th, 2005 09:19 PM

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The mirror universe episodes were just awesome. I love old school Trek hardware. No treknobabble required. That's why war is cool.

But then they cut off that story, left it with no ending, and started some story about some baby. Then the last episode takes place several (missing) years later. The Andorian guy shows up again out of the blue. Trip dies for no apparent reason. And then the formation of that atheistic communist Roddenberian utopia we've all been waiting for was thrown in there as an afterthought.

The parallel story with Riker and Troy had no real ending either. Riker's conclusion: to do the right thing. Duh, Riker. I could've told you that in the opening credits, we could've skipped the rest of the episode, you could get back to kicking Borg hiney and I could watch Law & Order.

Atrocities May 18th, 2005 10:12 PM

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One thing that would have made the series very cool is if they would have established that the Romulan war had occured just PRIOR to Enterprise. Then we could have had a few Romulan intervention episodes that would have been a hell of a lot better than the ones we did get.

Plus it would have given the show a known enemy of focus and a secondary purpose for Enterprise.

In fact if there was ever to be a TV movie for Enterprise, it could be to tie up all of the loose ends and fix that horrible series ending.

Future Archer goes back in time and saves Trip from being killed. It would be like what Admiral Janeway did to save Voyager in its series finally. Her future was changed but by giving up her exsistance, she saved her crew and got them home sooner.

A simular thing can be done with Enterprise to tie up the Temperal Cold war loose threads and save Trip. It would be an awsome show if written well.

Aris_Sung May 20th, 2005 03:13 AM

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You know an episode is going to be bad when even some of the cast didn't like the idea of having actors from a previous series in the episode.

Complaints: Riker - Since this episode is link to the Pegasus ep in TNG, Riker must of had a big eating binge because of all the stress he was in (or that he spent too much time as the chef)
- it's just so dang hard to get promoted these days. I mean c'mon, does Hoshi and Travis have to retire as ensigns?
- in terra prime, trip and t'pol were having a heart felt moment and now the best relationship line is 'have you thought of me these past 6 years?'
- here's an alternate ending for trip, right before he plugs the 2 cables together, a crewman (Braga) will jump in and push trip out of the way and sacrifice himself [i mean it's the least he could do]

Atrocities March 25th, 2006 07:08 AM

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UPN, the network that KILLED Star Trek, is finally confirmed dead. UPN, after deciding that it would pander to only ONE specific audiance and in doing so, drove away 90% of its viewership has finally paid the ultimate price for its stupidity. Well at least they have up here as UPN is no more here.

UPN will always be considered the network that KILLED, no slaughtered Star Trek in a drive by shooting ala gang land pimp fest style. UPN discontinued the shows that people wanted to watch in favor of shows that only a few people would watch and in doing so tanked the ratings for Enterprise which eventually led to the shows, and the franchises, demis.

I mean WTF where those jacka**ed dumb f***s over at Paramount thinking? DS9 would have been far better suited to the new UPN line up than Enterprise, so why not allow Enterprise to be sold into syndication and run reruns of DS9 on UPN?

I don't know, all I do know is that if UPN is not yet dead near you, I hope to God that it soon will be. Death to UPN and all thoughs who killed Star Trek!


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