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dogscoff July 5th, 2005 05:00 AM

Re: OT: WOTW
 
Wow, 10 whole posts in a book-to-film thread without mentio... never mind, I'm not gonna mention it.

Randallw July 5th, 2005 05:55 AM

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Quote:

Kamog said:
Yeah, the ending of ID4 was silly and not very believable. Nevertheless, it was a good movie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

You don't know the half of how bad it was,

http://www.changingthetimes.co.uk/sa...nation_day.htm

narf poit chez BOOM July 5th, 2005 03:44 PM

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Yes, but my point was they weren't trying for realism - they were trying for a fun film. I don't mind a lack of realism if that's not what the films about.

(In other words - I don't care if nobody ever reloads in a John Woo film - John Woo films are about millions and millions of bullets and big explosions. ID4 was about millions and millions of aliens and big explosions)

Hunpecked July 5th, 2005 04:23 PM

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Randallw writes:

"...but these days you'd expect highly advanced aliens to consider such things."

As I recall, H. G. Wells himself explained this. His Martians were so old and so highly evolved that they had pretty much forgotten their primitive origin. Since they didn't have to deal with such things on their own world anymore, they couldn't even conceive of such things on other planets (specifically, Earth).

Captain Kwok July 5th, 2005 04:28 PM

Re: OT: WOTW
 
Another point to consider is that with the plethora of things here on Earth it'd be quite near impossible to protect against all of them.

dogscoff July 6th, 2005 06:50 AM

Re: OT: WOTW
 
Quote:

Hunpecked said:
Randallw writes:

"...but these days you'd expect highly advanced aliens to consider such things."

As I recall, H. G. Wells himself explained this. His Martians were so old and so highly evolved that they had pretty much forgotten their primitive origin. Since they didn't have to deal with such things on their own world anymore, they couldn't even conceive of such things on other planets (specifically, Earth).


For some reason I'm reminded of http://www.moviepunks.com/?id=43

narf poit chez BOOM July 6th, 2005 03:16 PM

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Well, the thing is, most people don't want a story where the aliens conquer us. Even though it's more logical, it's not a happy ending. People want happy endings.

ZeroAdunn July 8th, 2005 05:08 PM

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The ending to ID4 is perfectly plausable. I mean, mac's aren't compatible with any human technology, so why wouldn't whos to say they aren't designed to be complatble with alien technology?

On topic: Yah, WotW was freakin great. It could have been just another meh story, but the way the whole story ishandled, the character development and cinematography propel it into one of the greatest movies I have seen in recent years.

Antonin July 8th, 2005 11:17 PM

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I saw WOTW this evening and I have to say I was not impressed. The special effects were great, and the way in which the aliens was depicted was superb.

But the script flowed poorly, and the acting--except for Cruise--was pretty bad. Some of the dialogue was real junior high school stuff.

And I have a real problem with the whole "people in movies behave this way" thing.

If a giant crater opens up in an intersection in your city or town, and starts sending big cracks up the sides of nearby buildings, are you going to run like heck or just move back a few feet and stand and watch?

I usually like sci-fi, the stranger the better. And I even enjoy absurdist sci-fi like Men in Black, but this film did nothing for me. I wanted to like it, but...

ZeroAdunn July 9th, 2005 12:17 AM

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In regards to the cracks in the ground/buildings, it is the whole rubbernecking thing. Whenever something bad/unusuall/strange happens people look. It doesn't matter how potentially dangerous it is, there will always be people around watching it. In that way I think the movie actually captured some of the feeling of the originall book. I thought the acting was excellent, the main three were very convincing, most of the side people were ok, if not excellent. The initiall father son dialogue was a little weak, but other that I thought most of the character interactions were good.


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