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shovah September 20th, 2005 11:57 AM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
just won my first sp game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif doom horror prophet with 9 everything bless then wished for power on itself ( 9 everything bless came from wishing for magic power with my pretender alot )

High_Priest_Naresh September 20th, 2005 12:22 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
I can only PBEM so if any one or ones want a quick game....

magnate September 20th, 2005 12:54 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
Quote:

shovah said:
just won my first sp game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif doom horror prophet with 9 everything bless then wished for power on itself ( 9 everything bless came from wishing for magic power with my pretender alot )

?? The bless effects are fixed at the start of the game, so wishing for magic power on your pretender shouldn't make any difference. Can you post a screenie of your prophet with 9-eveything bless?

I really don't understand how people's games can go on for so long that they cast loads of wishes and empowerment and stuff. My longest game ever (on Orania map) is 86 turns. That's enough to get one or two schools to level 9 (on Normal research) - maybe 3 if you ignore the others. I have never yet cast Wish in any game, simply because Alteration 9 is so low on my list of priorities (Blood 6, Conj 7 or 9, Alt 6, Const 8, Ench 5 etc.).

I do agree that mopping up the last couple of dozen AI provinces is tedious when I control 90% of the map, but I don't really like any of the other victory conditions. You can control 5 of 8 capitals (or even 7 of 8) and still not be in a winning position. Ditto with VP provinces (really hate those). I guess I could go for a "80% of provinces" VC.

Anyway, I've read a lot of stuff in recent threads about how crap SP is, and I love it. I love MP too, of course, nothing gets the adrenaline going quite like it, but I think SP is fine. Ok so the AI is not perfect, but it's still challenging enough. I don't build castles (because I know the AI cannot) but otherwise I play exactly as I would in MP. It's good practice.

CC

Endoperez September 20th, 2005 01:04 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
Its about the same with me, except that I do build castles. I use mainly normal units, though, and thus the mass armies the AIs use do offer some challenge.

High_Priest_Naresh September 20th, 2005 01:06 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
I cannot understand how you can win!

Endoperez September 20th, 2005 01:12 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
I win when I have fun. Don't you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

One of the greatest games I ever had barely lasted for 20 turns. I was Mictlan, and lost the game. I had chosen scales that didn't work very well, and made mistakes both tactical and strategical, but the events are what made the game fun. <font color="blue"> Click here </font> if you are interested in the story

sushiboat September 20th, 2005 02:10 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
Naresh, maybe you should give us more details about how you play the game against the AI, what maps you have played, when and how the AI is overwhelming you, etc. It's hard to give good advice when we don't have any information about what you are doing wrong.

shovah September 20th, 2005 02:41 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
maybe he didnt get the bless effects, mustve been items or somethin ( but still, doom horror with 200 health 36 prot and 40 attack defence and strength. he also has 14 regen and his usual +15 fear and +2 blood vengance is pretty fun )

High_Priest_Naresh September 20th, 2005 03:02 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
75% magic rich 15 hof
easy research
usually play against abysia ulm man or jontun
they just surround me with overwhelming numbers and wait build temples forts then cast spells like Fires from afar and seeking arrow it can be really annoying
thier difficulty is easy...
sad innit?

Endoperez September 20th, 2005 03:58 PM

Re: I have never won a sp game...
 
You left out indep. str, but I quess you have it quite high. Try advancing more carefully, or playing with fewer enemies. And as especially Ulm and Jotunheim have much better provincial defence than is usual, you should learn to use it. However, don't buy it everywhere. Having 1 is enough vs AI if it cannot reach it with normal armies, because AI rarely uses transport or distant summon spells with any real skill.


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