Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

Well I dont know about any other army but I imagine the Soviet Union would have just used heavy bombers and lots of artilary to
a) create cover
b) demoralise
c) create fear
d) supress

They would then just roll through with tanks APCs and Infantry.

Apart from anything else I dont think the Commies would have been to bothered about collateral damage

Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

We'll never really know will we, collateral damage and the fear of creating it really is a post-Cold War phenomenon. During the Cold War, the idea of buring the village to save it from the dreaded communists won out in debates over how many innocents got caught in the way.

Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

I was intimating how I was trained to do it. I've done kraals in reality, but never had to do a really built up area.

troopie

Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

Sounds like what the book would be calling for indeed... at least until, say, mid-90s!

They tried that in Grozny, and I think we all know the result it had at the moment!

Urban assault in a Cold-War-Gone-Hot setting s an interesting thought, but in that case, given the highly mechanized character of any assaulting force (on both sides), the strategy of avoiding and encircling cities would have prevailed IMHO.
Dunno how much the Soviet high command was aware of the western defensive tactics though.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

Is there a good Groznyi scenario out there?
I poked through the stuff that comes with the download and did not see any.

Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

There should be one ("Death of the Maikop Brigade" or something like that )somewhere, but it was not compatible with never versions of SPMBT, and caused the game to crash.

Re: How do real life armies clear cities?
 

Israel doctrine for urban combat rely on tanks heavily. I remeber I have read that infantry should provide 20 meters "safe area" around tank.

In the second Chechen war, most works seems was done by rekon groups and artillery. Rekons located the enemy and called artillery fire. After that line infantry occupied area with little resistance. Dyring Grozyi assault (second chechen war) city was encircled and TOS-1 ("Buratino") FAE (thermobaric) missiles launchers were used en masse on it. Remnants of unburned explosive in the air from fuel-air rokets caused rumors about chemical weapon.