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DominionsFan September 1st, 2006 09:58 AM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
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Kristoffer O said:
Breath of winter is also nerfed. It was unreasonably powerful for a lvl 1 spell. It now causes fatigue instead of AN damage.

Oh nice, I was always wondering that why was that spell so powerful. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Sindai September 1st, 2006 12:38 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
As long as spellcasters will use damage spells instead of weak summons when they already have a horde of troops screening them I'll be happy.

PDF September 1st, 2006 01:03 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell use
 
I rather agree with the design choice to have some spells not cast by the AI and only left to the players. With the gazillion spells in the game I don't expect any AI to handle spellcasting correctly for all (or even some http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif )

okiN September 1st, 2006 05:15 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
I'm about to present an uncounterable argument for limiting AI spell use.

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Words cannot describe how I'm feeling right now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Endoperez September 1st, 2006 05:23 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
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okiN said:
I'm about to present an uncounterable argument for limiting AI spell use.

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Words cannot describe how I'm feeling right now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

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That... Ugh. Well:
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Words cannot describe how I'm feeling right now.

and I just observed!

Agrajag September 1st, 2006 05:31 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
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okiN said:
I'm about to present an uncounterable argument for limiting AI spell use.

Its is in fact ucounterable.
Sadly though, I just can't stop laughing.

PvK September 1st, 2006 05:32 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell use
 
Heh! I was wondering if the AI would ever creatively decide Vortex of Returning by itself.

Just marking Vortex of Returning as "AI never casts" would be a crude but simple solution. But I think there is a counter-argument, which is that, in an ideal world, there would be enough time to program the AI so that it sensed when its own troops were in grave danger of being wiped out, and the home province was safer, and only in those circumstances to cast that particular spell.

Agrajag September 1st, 2006 05:36 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
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PvK said:
Heh! I was wondering if the AI would ever creatively decide Vortex of Returning by itself.

Just marking Vortex of Returning as "AI never casts" would be a crude but simple solution. But I think there is a counter-argument, which is that, in an ideal world, there would be enough time to program the AI so that it sensed when its own troops were in grave danger of being wiped out, and the home province was safer, and only in those circumstances to cast that particular spell.

Maybe make it so if you will route the next round, then the Vortex is used?

Taqwus September 1st, 2006 05:36 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
Barkskin and Phoenix Pyre are also dangerous spells in certain situations.

Barkskin -- I once sent a Druid on a 1-man suicide mission after he cast Barkskin on my Abysians. That was a very, very ugly spell to choose...

Phoenix Pyre is dangerous if there are friendly non-fire-immunes.

okiN September 1st, 2006 05:41 PM

Re: Very disappointing news about AI combat spell
 
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Agrajag said:
Its is in fact ucounterable.
Sadly though, I just can't stop laughing.

I've more or less managed to get over the shock, which has now been replaced by an extremely strong urge to strip Daulis of his magic items and teleport him into a hostile province.

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PvK said:
Heh! I was wondering if the AI would ever creatively decide Vortex of Returning by itself.

Just marking Vortex of Returning as "AI never casts" would be a crude but simple solution. But I think there is a counter-argument, which is that, in an ideal world, there would be enough time to program the AI so that it sensed when its own troops were in grave danger of being wiped out, and the home province was safer, and only in those circumstances to cast that particular spell.

Works for me, but that's not a counter-argument as such, as I wasn't advocating exclusion, but limitation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Taqwus said:Barkskin -- I once sent a Druid on a 1-man suicide mission after he cast Barkskin on my Abysians. That was a very, very ugly spell to choose...

Heh, you ought to be able to feel my pain.


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