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Slick said:
Nobody is completely satisfied to date.

Well, given what you said for the last item I don't think a single game in my collection would count for that.

And I've been playing since 1991 or so!

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Gandalf Parker said:
Except that Ive already bought the game (but would rather not vote that way). And there is also not one for "I think SEV went the wrong direction completely".

I was wondering if it was too soon to poll the question of whether they should be an SEV forum.

Which "wrong direction" ? SE5 is 90% SE4 concept- and gameplay-wise, do you refer to the new move to 3D ?
Although I'm not happy with the UI I still find the new graphics much better than SE4s, which looked like a spreadsheet more than a game at (numerous) times ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

And the SE5 forum is here isn't it ? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I'm curious also, what do you mean by 'wrong direction'?
As far as the new graphics go, in my opinion it's mostly fluff, I would have been completely content with SE4 graphics. In fact, I'm hoping that at some point there will be either a mod (if the UI is moddable), or an option for a classic(SE4) UI.

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Gandalf Parker said:
Except that Ive already bought the game (but would rather not vote that way). <font color="red">And there is also not one for "I think SEV went the wrong direction completely"</font>.

I was wondering if it was too soon to poll the question of whether they should be an SEV forum.

You said it, Brother.....

The game will ultimately be judged by the "good" points vs the "bad" point. If there are more good points, then you could still play the game and enjoy it. If the "bad" points are really bad then even "one" could be annoying and overshadow all the good values. I have many games that play well but have annoying points to them. Still, once you know of them and how to play around them it does detract from the game a little bit, BUT not to the point where the game is unplayable. This is a choice we all make in every game we play. SEIV has many problems with it still, yet they are small problems that don't affect the game play. Some of the posts I've read about SEV state that the game is just not ready.

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Xrati said:
Some of the posts I've read about SEV state that the game is just not ready.

I still think that this should not be labeled as a Demo, but as a Public Beta.

I'm loving it, but since I'm a veteran SEIV player, its a little easier for me. I'd hate to see someone walk away from the "Demo" thinking that its final, since as we all know, Malfador doesn't ever stop fixing things...

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PDF said:

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I would rather have seen an improved SEIV game (AI, UI, modding, etc) rather than an eye-candy bloated SEV game. Thats just my opinion but I feel that the scren is full of pretty pictures which slow down the game and make it harder to play at a decent speed. I also wonder if the 3D thing might not slow down the creation of new races which is one of the things I loved about SEIV was having something like 300 races in it. And giant maps (als0 modded in later by players). The SEIV out-of-the-box was a very tiney game, almost a demo itself, compared to what the player mods turned it into.

As for the forums, thats exactly my point. I would rather that the SEIV forums NOT become the SEV forum since Im beginning to doubt whether SEIV will die off now.

And I think Shrapnel would support the creation of such a forum. The fact that this forum has traffic is not really a selling point. The load and archiving of this forum is something that just makes me more appreciative that Shrapnel keeps these things running for its ex-products.

SE5 can have much bigger maps than SE4. Same number of systems in a galaxy, but each system can be ridiclously huge if you want to do it that way- the system sizes are definable in settings.txt.

The AI doesn't seem to be much improved over SE4, but SE5's equivlent of the TDM pack should be much better, given the improved access to the AI.

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Phoenix-D said:
I think its really amusing that "SEV should not be released right now" and "Yes, I'd buy it based on the demo" are leading their catagories. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Well I voted that, because I would buy it no matter how bad the state it is released in. Because I know it'll be good in the end. But I wouldnt want to see it released if it is in the state the demo is in right now. Loads and loads of really visible bugs, you can have bugs, but obveous bugs really gotta go before you release, I played the demo for 1 hour yesterday and I found about 4 very obvious bugs. Now depending on what build the demo originated from (it's in general an older build than what will be released)

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PDF said:
Although I'm not happy with the UI I still find the new graphics much better than SE4s, which looked like a spreadsheet more than a game at (numerous) times ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/yawn.gif

OK I REALLY REALLY HATE this "spreadsheets in space is bad" thing. it's the reason aaron went to bloated UI and graphics crap in the first place! a spreadsheet is used PRECICELY because you can get a lot of information in a small easy to see space.
spreadsheets are GOOD!!!111oneoneone

now where the hell did my happy place go...