Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

Yeah, I liked Dom2 system more too. It was kind of logical to have end of orders command ('e') separate from hosting. I would often invoke 'e' just to commit my current orders, then think and maybe get back to correct some orders. Hosting from a separate screen was kind of cool - hard to do it by mistake...

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

And what if you're in a blitz or other TCP game? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif It needs to be fixed, people have asked for it since way back in Dom2.

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

I think even shift-e is problematic, as R (research) and S (search) are still right next to it. Alt-e or maybe even something different like ctrl-return would be much better.

Of course, bringing back the Dom2 hosting dialogue would be the best solution.

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

CTRL+e would be best

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

Happened to me once, too. Damned annoying.

Reminds me of how Silent Hunter III has Enter fire torpedoes. There were tonnes of accidentally launched eels until a mod changed it to Ctrl+Enter.

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

It should be noted that shift+e already is a commander order: Break Seige. At least one of the two should bechanged. If caps lock is on and you try to break a seige... I doubt it will be long before that happens in a few TC/IP blitz games...

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

I still think it's more the auto-hosting that's the problem, rather than the keyboard shortcut. Removing the auto-hosting means it doesn't matter if you accidentally hit "e"...
Of course, I might be in the minority (Dom2 players too set in their ways to change them when tired/distracted/mindless/insane) but my impression was that the change was because the turn-hosting screen was confusing for new folk; I agree with this, and in fact welcomed the change when I heard about it, but in practice I think it would be better to make the hosting screen more intuitive (maybe replace the "host" button with a "process orders" button or something... There are probably better choices!)

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

I prefer the "one click" hosting. I think because it plays into the less clicks = streamlined user interface idea. I can certainly see where some folks might be put off by it though. I still find myself in a sense of shock when I first hit the end turn button and don't see the host turn screen simply from habit. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

That's kind of extreme case. In average game it will cost you 50-100 extra clicks (that's if you don't save your orders in between, in which case advantage is even smaller) at the cost of accidental "hostings" once in a while. I'm sure there're more places in Dom3 where even more clicks can be saved without any disadvantages.

Re: Please change the \"e\" shortcut
 

I can still remember all that "It sucks to have to click another button on another screen just to do my SP turn! In every other game there's an 'end turn' button!!" ..

But the problem is not the button, the problem (if there is any) is the accidently pressed shortcut key.

I would suggest it gets removed. We have a button to get the next turn. Simple as that!