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atul October 8th, 2006 06:10 PM

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Nerfix said:
Indeed, the kitbashing of the nations seems not only very unaesthetic but also...dare I say...a cop-out.

Dunno. If there were no Dom2 themes to remember, would people think that there's something wrong? With Pans, you lose a theme but you get to re-enact the fall of Ermor in-game with another nation. How cool is that?

With LA Ulm, well, I like the combination of fanatic one-eyed priests and the secret order. Some other ones need more imagination, I guess (ok, what's the deal with the Man's Curse or am I just missing stuff? etc). But ultimately these are just personal opinions, of course.

IMHO, YMMV, et cetera.

DominionsFan October 8th, 2006 06:22 PM

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Meglobob said:
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AAshbery76 said:
A.I is much more important.A bet the majority who bought DOM3 will only play singleplayer.

I think this is very true. Good AI is a MUST, even if it cheats to compete with a person.

80% - 90% of games players only play SP. Dominions might have a higher % of MP, as its got a reputation as a MP game, but even so, doubt MP makes up more than 20% - 30% of dominions 3 players.

Just look at how many multiplayer (PBEM) games have been started via the Dom3 multiplayer thread on this website, 0, yes zero.


Lads, how do you know that 80-90 percent of the people are playing SP games only? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
Also keep in mind, that the AI is much better compared to the Doms 2. AI. Also as I know Kris and Johan they will try to improve it in the upcoming patches.
So sit back and relax, SP fans won't be forgiven for sure. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

..as for PBEM games...tbh I don't like PBEM. TCP/IP is the real deal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
There is a Dominions IRC channel, where you can set up games, if you don't have real life mates or local lads to play with for example.

Beorne October 8th, 2006 06:50 PM

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Meglobob said:
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AAshbery76 said:
A.I is much more important.A bet the majority who bought DOM3 will only play singleplayer.

I think this is very true. Good AI is a MUST, even if it cheats to compete with a person.

80% - 90% of games players only play SP. Dominions might have a higher % of MP, as its got a reputation as a MP game, but even so, doubt MP makes up more than 20% - 30% of dominions 3 players.

Just look at how many multiplayer (PBEM) games have been started via the Dom3 multiplayer thread on this website, 0, yes zero.

Ok, I remember an old thread discussing about this. Simply put, it is not possible to create a good ai in a so complex game without cheating heavily (but this is not ai). Chess is much simple, and a good ai has taken years and teras of computing power. If the environment is complex (yes, thousand of units and hundreds of spells is complex) a good AI is a dream. No simple rules can cope with, and complex rules require big programming time and generrate lot of bugs. I think that if you put the effort to improve the ai in the background, description, literary work, it makes much better. Obviously if the ai has some severely wrong behaviour, it is a bug (not an enhancment) and it has to be corrected.
I liked the Tuhata, the carrions and ethereal Ermors, all of these sems ... changed. But it is not only this. I've found Agartha that has a beatiful background, but some unit miss the details of the descriptions.
I think working on these little bugs and expanding the DomIII universe is more rewarding for the devs, more easy and more "in line" with the spirit (and with the main characteristics) of the game.

AAshbery76 October 8th, 2006 07:31 PM

Re: My wishes, what the devs should focus into
 
Stopping suicide attacks from Pretenders or the attacking logic full stop has nothing to do with the massive complexity of the game,that is no excuse.

Beorne October 9th, 2006 03:55 AM

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AAshbery76 said:
Stopping suicide attacks from Pretenders or the attacking logic full stop has nothing to do with the massive complexity of the game,that is no excuse.

Ok, I agree with that, these are bugs that should be corrected.


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