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Sandman October 29th, 2006 05:57 PM

Re: Just got rolled by AI Neifel. What did I do wr
 
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My national dwarf mages I had research as well, but every three turns or so, due to a huge death gem income, I had them summon up an army led by a bane lord of ghosts, pale riders, behemoths, and that one shadow skull-head dog ethereal summon.

If you've got a huge death gem income, forge loads of skull mentors and your research problems will be over. Heck, you could even go for owl quills as well.

Stryke11 October 29th, 2006 06:08 PM

Re: Just got rolled by AI Neifel. What did I do wr
 
While yes, I like Ulm, and playing them is certainly fun for me, I think what I enjoy the most is trying new nations and new ideas I get here on this board and then learn to be more versatile. Dominions is just so full of content that I would feel like I wasn't getting the most out of it if I always played the same nation.

That being said, I'd rather not re-invent the wheel, so before playing a nation I like to read up on strategies you experts have used. That's what influenced me to try a dual bless Helheim in the first place.

Foodstamp October 29th, 2006 06:57 PM

Re: Just got rolled by AI Neifel. What did I do wr
 
A few points about what probably went wrong...

I have found versus the AI, and I imagine versus other players, one army does not cut it.

Your vanguard army sounded fine, but you should have had multiple armies of say 12-20ish helherdings/1-2 vankarls. This gives you a small stealth force with a leader that can cast lightning bolt and bless. I place them on a flank with hold position--->attack rearmost units with the vankarl placed directly in the middle of them scripted to blessing/lightning bolt/lightning bolt/lightning bolt!

As shown by this video clip, giants are no match for lightning bolts!

Btw, when playing helheim there is no scissors/rock/paper if your using F9W9. You are the scissors, the rock, and the paper. Helhirdings are cheap to produce, atm can be recruited in any province with a keep, and they are GODS on the battlefield.

PDF October 29th, 2006 07:20 PM

Re: Just got rolled by AI Neifel. What did I do wr
 
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Stryke11 said:
While yes, I like Ulm, and playing them is certainly fun for me, I think what I enjoy the most is trying new nations and new ideas I get here on this board and then learn to be more versatile. Dominions is just so full of content that I would feel like I wasn't getting the most out of it if I always played the same nation.

That being said, I'd rather not re-invent the wheel, so before playing a nation I like to read up on strategies you experts have used. That's what influenced me to try a dual bless Helheim in the first place.

Well, the problem is that Dual9-bless are high-power setup not that useful to "learn" strategies because they'll force you to poor scales and will not give you a pretender that will "come along" nicely with your nation.


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