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Combat Wombat

November 13th, 2006 01:26 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

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Raapys said:
I don't know. Not having it stock makes it somewhat more difficult for people who want to make mods with the Balance mod as a base rather than stock. Also, stock still got major issues with for instance the AI's making crippling pacts with each other and such.

There's a whole lot of people out there who will be 'stuck with stock' and never bother with mods or looking at the game forums, too. If the Balance mod generally holds a higher quality than stock, like it does now( remember what Aaron said about modders doing things he could never have time for or do himself?) that's really too bad for the average SEV player.

I see your points. I just think it'd be worth it.

That is exactly how I feel. 90% of players if not more do not play any mods all they play is stock and the current stock is not good enough for the 90% of players who do not have mods. Also many mods use stock as their base and having such a sad stock will hurt alot of mods. While mods can use the Balance Mod as their base it just doesn't work as well. The ammount of people who like the current stock(who knows why) are far out numbered by the people that would benifit from having Balance Mod become stock.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

President_Elect_Shang

November 13th, 2006 02:20 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

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Combat Wombat said:
...That is exactly how I feel. 90% of players if not more do not play any mods all they play is stock and the current stock is not good enough for the 90% of players...

I fully agree; in fact that was the very reasoning I had when I signed the petition!

Geez CW that twice in one day I have agreed with you. Did I wake up in an alternate dimension this morning? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

AAshbery76

November 13th, 2006 02:33 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

BALANCE>STOCK.

Captain Kwok

November 13th, 2006 02:33 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

I see the points you're making - but I think everyone (not just 90%) could be better served if the Balance Mod was just included as a game type with SE:V itself - either through a future patch or expansion.

Combat Wombat

November 13th, 2006 02:34 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

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President_Elect_Shang said:

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Combat Wombat said:
...That is exactly how I feel. 90% of players if not more do not play any mods all they play is stock and the current stock is not good enough for the 90% of players...

Did everyone you know have a goatee this morning? If yes than you might be in an alternate dimension

Combat Wombat

November 13th, 2006 02:36 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

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Captain Kwok said:
I see the points you're making - but I think everyone (not just 90%) could be better served if the Balance Mod was just included as a game type with SE:V itself - either through a future patch or expansion.

Everyone would be better served with Balance Mod being stock and stock being the extra gametype, we shall call it old stock or Unbalance Mod, hmm I think I may have something there

Phoenix-D

November 13th, 2006 02:45 PM

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And, since its higher in the alphabet, it'd show up by default in the mod list. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Captain Kwok

November 13th, 2006 02:46 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

If both are included then what does it matter about the name? Both would be available for the user to choose from when starting a new game.

Also consider by making the Balance Mod "stock" then it becomes many times more of a challenge to update/revise in a dynamic manner. And let me assure you the BM still has some ways to go itself...

Combat Wombat

November 13th, 2006 02:51 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

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Captain Kwok said:
If both are included then what does it matter about the name? Both would be available for the user to choose from when starting a new game.

Also consider by making the Balance Mod "stock" then it becomes many times more of a challenge to update/revise in a dynamic manner. And let me assure you the BM still has some ways to go itself...

Ahh but for mod makers we dont want a dynamic stock we want something that will stay basically the same. The current stock works fine for that but is [censored] in every other department. We need a stable and balanced stock and making the Balance Mod stock is the best way to do that. It doesn't have to be perfect it just has to be better than the current stock which it is and by the time the next patch is released I bet you can have the remaining bugs smoothed out, and if you need help getting it done in that time frame I will assist. It doesn't have to be perfect, I mean look at stock SE4 it had problems and some balance issues but not nearly as bad as stock SE5.

Phoenix-D

November 13th, 2006 02:52 PM

Re: Balance Mod to become Stock SEV Petition

I think Kwok's point is the Balance Mod isn't ready to be stable yet.

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