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Suicide Junkie November 27th, 2006 03:32 AM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
Check your planet's cargo, and see how much supply they have available.

If you sucked them dry when you arrived, you could either move the ships, or order them to load (under cargo) supplies from the planet.

The resupply depot will distribute a small number of supplies as noted before, each turn to ships anywhere in the system. It will also push an unlimited number of supplies to ships entering and/or leaving the hex. (Limited only by the planetary storage amount)

StarJack November 27th, 2006 03:33 AM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
OK, I just looked at the facility, says it generates 1100 supplies per turn is that for ALL ships in orbit, or per ship in orbit? I have that sick, disgusting feeling that it's total, since my refits have been sitting there for over 10 turns without getting any supply.

StarJack November 27th, 2006 03:41 AM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
Quote:

Suicide Junkie said:
Check your planet's cargo, and see how much supply they have available.

If you sucked them dry when you arrived, you could either move the ships, or order them to load (under cargo) supplies from the planet.

The resupply depot will distribute a small number of supplies as noted before, each turn to ships anywhere in the system. It will also push an unlimited number of supplies to ships entering and/or leaving the hex. (Limited only by the planetary storage amount)

OK I checked the planet and it's out of supplies. The ships can only move one hex a turn so moving them will take ages. I'm probably misunderstanding your load cargo comment since the planet has no supplies? And yes the retrofit involved new engines, should I receive a supply penalty for upgrading engines? I need to dump supplies planet side before retrofitting! I hope that's a bug. Jeeze, I guess I need to build a resupply base on every planet now. This seems bloody tedious.

Thanks for all your help guys, I'll say it again, this forum saves this game. You guys should be sharing in whatever profits there are.

Suicide Junkie November 27th, 2006 04:20 AM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
I meant in the case of draining the supplies when you arrived, but then rebuilding more in the meantime without giving them to the ships...

If you have another planet around somewhere, you could transfer all the supplies onto one or a few ships. Just enough to get them to the nearest other planet with supply. then they could fill up there, and carry the extra supplies back to the fleet.

You could also build a dedicates supply tanker, to shuttle supplies up from the core systems of your empire.

Captain Kwok November 27th, 2006 08:40 AM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
Technically speaking, you always lost your engine's supplies when retrofitting in SE:IV as well - the difference was that the resupply was unlimited though. But yes it does make sense now to dump supplies on the planet that retrofitting. The transfer order can make this fast.

President_Elect_Shang November 27th, 2006 10:24 AM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
I see SJ already took that on. When you process a turn 1100 supplies should be generated and divided among the ships in orbit. Remember my comment of 1000 plus some depending on your current level? Anyway have you processed a turn yet? I build ammo and supply ships for my fleets; one ship that does both that is. So far I don’t see how your ships are not getting supplied. If you’ve sucked the planet dry you need to process the next turn. I don’t like the lost supplies thingy either. As CPT Kwok said in SE4 it didn’t matter, now though it sucks. Supplies should be automatically unloaded when a ship is given the refit command.

StarJack November 27th, 2006 02:06 PM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
I processed 2-3 turns, I set everything to easy in this game just to learn the ropes, and boy there's a bunch of ropes! Those ships still haven't received supply, but other ships in the system are. SJ's point on transferring cargo from other systems may be of use in the future, as well as your thoughts on supply ships. I had just redesigned some ships to carry extra supply/ordinance, and I may ammend that to just have some large supply ships and set up runs from other systems I do not have fleets stationed in.

This is however just another tedious aspect of the design of SEV. Having to sweat details of logistical supply is tedious, not fun. Maybe it's just me but I'm puzzled by the concept of a science fiction game where you can build huge star faring warships that can destroy entire solar systems, but you have to struggle to supply them. While it's semantics arguing common sense in this type of game, this just makes no sense to me.

Now I'm off to contact tech support about the crash bug in strategic combat. (rolls eyes)

Thanks again for your assistance, death to your enemies!

President_Elect_Shang November 27th, 2006 02:19 PM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
Can you attach your save game so we can look at it? I think the saves in SE5 are too large to do that anymore though. I kept hearing about the crash in Strategic but till last night I had never seen it. Then it finally happened to me! Funny how I have run so many combats but it has only crashed once. Supply may seem kind of odd but it keeps one maniac from building a mega fleet and sending it out to destroy all opponents. You can still do it but not till later in the game where time playing has made up some for early bonuses. I never kill my enemies. Someone needs to clean the toilet, especially after chili night!

Captain Kwok November 27th, 2006 02:29 PM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
To be fair though, there are reasons why other supply options exist. It doesn't help so much with the low rate from the Resupply Depots in stock, but it does make overall supply management a lot less tedious.

President_Elect_Shang November 27th, 2006 02:41 PM

Re: What\'s going on with SUPPLY?
 
StarJack I think your going to do fine here! Welcome to our forum, now yours too! So take your funky behind off and get an avatar already; sheesh… Oh and don’t forget to start learning how to mod!


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