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Wish December 30th, 2006 05:33 PM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Subtract the troops that were also added and how many are left?

Wick December 31st, 2006 12:51 AM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Presumably 59 since new troop types are included under (Creature Name). You can also use just the creature number.

Gandalf Parker December 31st, 2006 02:46 AM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Yes, 59 wishe keywords. Things that can accept a variable such as creature, artifact, pretender are still just one item on the list. There are some that achieve the same result though. Apparently just to make it easier to hit something that works.

HoneyBadger December 31st, 2006 04:22 AM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Considering that a Wish may be used to summon any creature in the game, including potential Pretenders, what then is the most powerful creature currently in the game?

Jack_Trowell December 31st, 2006 07:52 AM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Not the most powerful, but a Gorgon (medusa) , with its petrification ability, can make for one of the better SC

Gandalf Parker December 31st, 2006 01:17 PM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Kindof specialized but the Lord of Night pretender is a titan, that flies, with sneak, and assassination. It also summons help during the assassination, and has all of the equipment slots. Apparently you would need to "Gift of Reason" it back to an independent leader.

Loren December 31st, 2006 01:31 PM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
Quote:

Gandalf Parker said:
At last patch there are 59 things that the wish spell is set to recognize.
(its real hard to hide things on linux) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

It doesn't hide very well under Windows, either. It certainly looks like the list of items at 91% through dom3.exe.

There are some more in there that don't look like variants:

king of the world
slave to unreason
eater of dreams
eater of gods
vis maker of ruins

And there are some that I'm not sure about:

everything
everyone
world

Endoperez December 31st, 2006 02:34 PM

Re: \"Wish\" spell
 
"Vis" is gems. King of the World gave Eater of Dreams seems to be the same as Slave to unreason, Eater of dreams, Eater of gods, Maker of ruins or Doom horror.

Taqwus December 31st, 2006 03:48 PM

Seizing artifacts, accessing national summons
 
It might be useful to instantly seize the artifact on which another nation happens to be relying -- for instance, if they're using Tempest for the storm + thunderstrikes, or running around with a sacred army bearing the Ark. Might be especially nice if you're nowhere near capable of building the artifact on your own. Or stranding the army that's using the Flying Ship...

Haven't really played around with seeing whether you can seize elemental/demonic royalty this way, or whether it only clones them. Or, say, the Tlaloques.

There are certain nice national summons that might be of interest -- if you can summon the Seraph (the angelic one, not the Caelian -- this would require summoning via monster number, something I haven't personally verified), he's a nasty SC that's normally restricted. A Mandaha might also be great fun for the Ashen Empire, considering the free darkness -- even if the Mandaha were not restricted to Lanka, the Ashen Empire is hardly the best nation for blood hunting.

Epaminondas December 31st, 2006 04:55 PM

Re: Seizing artifacts, accessing national summons
 
Can you summon Hunter of Heroes via Wish? LOL.

You CAN summon a Seraph simply by typing it in "Seraph," Taqwus. I've tried to amass him (her?) before.


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