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Agrajag December 31st, 2006 09:38 AM
Re: Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?
 
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Arralen said:
It is, as you'll be either
a) stuck with the "layered" OpenGL 1.4 provided by MS - guess this will happen with all low-budget and on-board GPUs, as the vendor will only have to provide working DX drivers then. Speed will be abysmal.
b) at the mercy of Ati and nVidia to provide ICDs for your card. Older cards will be dropped I bet and have to use a)
Then again, what are you expecting to run with those on-board GPUs and older cards?
Also, if you can't afford a decent GPU, you definitely can't afford all the RAM and proccessing power Vista requires, nor getting a legal copy of Vista, so why don't you just stay with XP? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif (I'm not really trying to argue for Vista, I'm definitely not going to switch to Vista anytime in the forseeable future. I was just joking how the first link actually works to disprove the point you were trying to make)

alexti December 31st, 2006 02:37 PM
Re: Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?
 
I think that OpenGL as layer on top of DirectX is not necessarily a bad thing. Performance bottlenecks are usually either in GPU performance or in the bus bandwidth. Those places are not affected by the extra layer where OpenGL API will get translated into DirectX (that will happen before anything will go to GPU). Besides, from what I understand, ABI in Vista is significantly different from ealier version of Windows and DLL function call is not a huge performance hit anymore.

I guess we will see... I'm not in a rush of getting Vista either (so far Win98 can handle whatever doesn't work on Linux just fine), but Vista actually looks promising. It might be the first solid OS from Microsoft. I think they've brought many good people on board in the last 5-7 years and from developer perspective their attitude has changed and now the quality seems to be in pretty high regard. Hopefully it will pay out with Vista.

NTJedi January 1st, 2007 02:19 PM
Re: Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?
 
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alexti said:
I guess we will see... I'm not in a rush of getting Vista either (so far Win98 can handle whatever doesn't work on Linux just fine), but Vista actually looks promising. It might be the first solid OS from Microsoft. I think they've brought many good people on board in the last 5-7 years and from developer perspective their attitude has changed and now the quality seems to be in pretty high regard. Hopefully it will pay out with Vista.
Besides DirectX_10... I see no reason to switch to windows vista. Even with the new DirectX version it will be at least a year before there's a game using it.

Agrajag January 1st, 2007 02:40 PM
Re: Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?
 
Quote:
NTJedi said:
Quote:
alexti said:
I guess we will see... I'm not in a rush of getting Vista either (so far Win98 can handle whatever doesn't work on Linux just fine), but Vista actually looks promising. It might be the first solid OS from Microsoft. I think they've brought many good people on board in the last 5-7 years and from developer perspective their attitude has changed and now the quality seems to be in pretty high regard. Hopefully it will pay out with Vista.
Besides DirectX_10... I see no reason to switch to windows vista. Even with the new DirectX version it will be at least a year before there's a game using it.
And do you own a GPU that supports DX10?
I don't think that even by a year there will be a good and affordable DX10 card.

alexti January 1st, 2007 03:10 PM
Re: Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?
 
I agree, there's no rush to switch to Vista. But if it comes out well I won't be opposed to switching to it (unlike switching to XP).

haileris January 29th, 2007 07:31 PM
Re: Anyone else using Vista + Dom3?
 
Hi

Just like to say that ATI have released a new catalyst driver for Vista with native OpenGL support. Dom3 seems to work ok for me now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Cheers
D


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