Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

Yeah, I'm aware of the differences between Stars! and SE4, that's why I asked if anyone had used the strategy. The two main reasons it won't work as well in SE4 imo is that in Stars! ships have no maintainance and in combat they take damage as stacks, not individual ships, meaning they Last longer in general and the bigger the stack the better.

And I know it's possible to get no maintainance in SE4 but I consider it an abuse and never use it.

Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jubala:
And I know it's possible to get no maintainance in SE4 but I consider it an abuse and never use it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just for information, how can you get no maintenance? I suppose this involves spending an enormous number of points in "maintenance reduction" during the race creation, right?

Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

Lessee, normal maintenance cost os 25%

You can get a 5% reduction by choosing Engineers, and then make the other 20% by spending race points.

Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

I've been forced to use this on a small scale in a solo game vs. an AI race. I was roleplaying my peaceful scientists, who hadn't researched beyond Ship Construction 2 or any weapon technologies when the Xi-Chung blew up an unarmed scout and declared war. I spent a couple decades losing two frigates for each of their destroyers that I killed or crippled, then 2-3 destroyers per light cruiser. By the time I got LCs I had a slight tech edge overall, so things got more balanced, but it took a couple more decades before I could take the war to their territory.

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Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

You can get absolute zero mantanence cost by modifying the settings.txt. These setting alow you to adjust the amount in which racial points cost. Example: anything over a 100% of say Defensive only costs 1 racial point each. You can also change it so you can have higher amounts of racial advantages. Like a 200% Attack rating.
Personally, I don't use these, since it makes the game seriously easy unless you go through and modify every other AI and human players' sources.
It takes a bit in the text file to realize what your modifying, just look at the strings, and they are pretty self explainitory.
Steve

Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

You can also use those characteristic costs in the setting file to make the game harder. In my hotseat games we have put a limit of 15 on the plus side of maintenance. This means that no one can get 0 maintenance, 5% is the least. We have also modified some of the costs also, maintenance cost 200 per 1% increase.

Re: Anyone tried The Barbarian Horde strategy?
 

i think i'm going to use that strategy in my current game, maybe i'll mix in some dreadnoughts for a diVersion.

My race has acces to all of the racial techs, so i can use the temporal shipyard, and probably will try to fit as many of the most damaging weapon on a light cruiser, or maybe several high damage/low distance weapons.