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Shovah32 February 22nd, 2007 08:30 PM

Re: Uses for Skratti?
 
I could be wrong but im pretty sure changing form dosnt take a turn afaik.

Aleph February 22nd, 2007 09:01 PM

Re: Uses for Skratti?
 
I think they like ice cream cake. Probably Cookie Puss.

lch February 22nd, 2007 10:07 PM

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Shovah32 said:
I could be wrong but im pretty sure changing form dosnt take a turn afaik.

true dat.

Actuarian February 23rd, 2007 03:59 PM

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NTJedi said:
Well if you're doing a change form back and forth every year that's two turns of research for one unit. So if you're doing change form for 20 of these back and forth that's 20 units not researching for two turns... thus if one provides 7 research then you're losing 140 research points each year.
It's probably better to take a growth scale then to do the micro_management of changing forms and losing research.

You're right. It would be micromanagement hell for not very much gain (maybe a net loss), although Skratti's can summon wolves in the werewolf form. This particular Skratti was in the hall of fame and I had empowered him some. I only shape-changed him and didn't worry about anyone else. I would have got him some boots of youth except I was winning easily and I just wanted to see if he ever suffered any afflictions in the wolf forms.

Edit: Upon rereading your post, you only lose one turn of research per year, not two. That is still excessive micromanagement.

Edi February 23rd, 2007 04:20 PM

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Shovah32 said:
I could be wrong but im pretty sure changing form dosnt take a turn afaik.

It doesn't, it happens instantly. If the skratti's magic is not affected like e.g. the Uba's or that of some other shapechangers, it's a great way to protect key mages from old age afflictions. The common line mages can take their lumps like everyne else.

Edi

SlipperyJim February 23rd, 2007 04:50 PM

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Mmmm ... Boots of Youth. That's the obvious answer to Abysia's age problems, and it should work out for Jotunheim, too.

Gift of Health is my usual solution, though. It only requires a Nature-5 mage, which is usually pretty easy to get even if you're not a Nature nation. Those keen Enchantresses can often get to Nature-5 with a little help. Gift of Health won't prevent your mages from aging, but it will heal their age afflictions as long as you keep them within your dominion.

Nick_K February 23rd, 2007 04:50 PM

Re: Uses for Skratti?
 
If the skratti's magic isn't affected, why not use the wolf form all the time?

Meglobob February 23rd, 2007 04:56 PM

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Nick_K said:
If the skratti's magic isn't affected, why not use the wolf form all the time?

The magic is effected, in that it is not as powerful I believe, I think if I remember correctly water-3 goes down to 2 or 1 or whatever.

Also the physical form is weaker than the skratti's or werewolf form.

Actuarian February 23rd, 2007 07:29 PM

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Nick_K said:
If the skratti's magic isn't affected, why not use the wolf form all the time?

A werewolf can call wolves as an action. It's not a ritual spell. The Skratti werewolf form starts out with no magic paths, at least mine never have.

FAJ February 23rd, 2007 08:20 PM

Re: Uses for Skratti?
 
From what i have seen, the Skratti werewolf has 1 water one blood. the wolf form has no paths.

The werewolf cannot call wolves, or I at least cant find how.

This is for LA (Utgard)


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