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Thanks Shovah, I've had a look to Edi's dB and you're right, Mound Fiends (Id 439) are Reanimators, D3 Mages and H2 priests, all in one! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Most of my previous comments were based upon Sunray's "units_dom3.xls", where Mound Fiends have the following incorrect description: can reanimate but does not know unholy spells. For that reason I thought that there was no unholy priest summonings available for all Nations.

Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
 

I've created a list with the summoners (creature summonings with magic skills) available in Death/Nature schools for reference purposes.
Although I've tried to make it as accurate as possible, expect some flaws because I found some difficulties understanding some bits of the data I used (e.g. the random magic skills).
The data was taken from in-game menus plus Sunray's and Edi's databases.
Here we go:


Id# <> Summoner <> Gems <> School <> Path <> Spell <> Summoner's Magic <> Other comments
641 <> Ancient Presence <> ??? <> ??? <> ??? <> ??? <> D3N3 <> Unique (Infor Vadul)
780 <> Lord of the Hunt <> 50 Nat <> Conj 9 <> N6 <> Wild Hunt <> E1N5 <> Unique (Herne)
621 <> Treelord <> 35 Nat <> Ench 7 <> N5 <> Awaken Treelord <> E1N4 <> Unique, Summons +X extra Vine Men/Ogre
980 <> Treelord <> 35 Nat <> Ench 7 <> N5 <> Awaken Treelord <> B1N4 <> Unique, Summons +X extra Vine Men/Ogre
627 <> Faery Queen <> 40 Nat <> Conj 8 <> N5 <> Faerie Court <> A3N3 <> Summ. Allies = 3 Sprites, Heal others (20% chance)
931 <> Ivy King <> 30 Nat <> Conj 7 <> N4 <> Awaken Ivy King <> N3 <> Summons +X extra Vine Men/Ogre
609 <> Lamia Queen <> 25 Nat <> Conj 6 <> N5D2 <> Contact Lamia Queen <> D2N1?? <> Shapechange Into Sepent Queen (Id# 610)
439 <> Mound Fiend <> 28 Dth <> Conj 7 <> D3 <> Summon Mound Fiend <> D3H2 <> Reanimator, Sacred
396 <> Revenant <> 9 Dth <> Ench 3 <> D2 <> Create Revenant <> D1 <>
329 <> Spectral Mage <> 20 Dth <> Conj 6 <> D3 <> Summon Spectre <> D!! <>
771 <> Tartarian Cyclops (Lightning) <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> A2E3 <> Possible Afflictions
772 <> Tartarian Cyclops (Ench. Sword) <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> E4 <> Possible Afflictions
777 <> Tartarian Monstra <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> ** + ** + * + * <> Possible Afflictions
776 <> Tartarian Monstrum <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> ** + ** <> Possible Afflictions
773 <> Tartarian Spirit <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> E3D2 <> Possible Afflictions
774 <> Tartarian Titan (Ench. Spear) <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> *** + ** <> Possible Afflictions
775 <> Tartarian Titan (Ench. Sickle) <> 10 Dth <> Conj 9 <> D7 <> Tartarian Gate <> *** + ** + ** <> Possible Afflictions
181 <> Wraith Lord <> 40 Dth <> Conj 7 <> D5 <> Call Wraith Lord <> D3 <> Summ. Allies = 1 Ghost

? -> Random Magic 100% Chance WDNB
! -> Random Magic 100% Chance WESD
* -> Random Magic 100% Chance FAWESDNB

Does somebody know how to invoke the "Ancient Presence"? Besides it has a unique name, it isn't tagged as a Hero, so it should be available to all the Nations (I presume)

I think the best Nation for supporting a hardcore death/nature summoning strategy is EA C'Tis: they start with +4 Death and +2 Nature gems and have a couple of interesting Pretenders with starting Nature and Death Magic; Father and Mother of Serpents.

Re: Newbie Question: Joining The Living And The De
 

The ancient presence shows up in a random event. It's the leader of an attack by independents on a province - kinda similar to Bogus and his lads, except it just has a bunch of manikins for company.

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i love charming that guy, cause hes a pretty good death-nature mage.

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Hi Managarm,
the summoning table was made for dom2 but most data are still useful for dom3. With 'does not know unholy spells' I mean 'is unable to cast special unholy spells like Unholy Blessing'.
Cheers

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Hello Sunray, nice to hear from the spreadsheet creator itself!!

Mound Fiend's unholy spell comment is a little bit tricky at first sight, but now after some digging I understand they are H2 priests with divine magic only.

Yep, your table IS VERY USEFUL indeed!! If I'd like to give a try to a new Nation, firstly I read the manual's description and then I open your spreadsheet to get a better overall idea about that Nation (units/commander stats, magic and priestly capabilities, etc).

The spreadsheet contains some flaws but it is still a nice document to use as reference. Thanks a lot for your efforts creating it.

If you plan to do an update, you can use the ammended death/nature summonings data from a previous post of mine (sorry for the selfish propaganda) if you find it useful.