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Meglobob April 17th, 2007 11:33 AM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengea
 
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Baalz said:
FWIW, if you have more than 2 natural eyes you can use multiple magic eyes without going blind. The first magic eye gives you the affliction "lost a couple of eyes" which suggests you'll lose the rest of them by using another eye, but in fact the affliction doesn't change with a second eye (only had to two slots, so not sure if you can replace all your eyes)

Also if you give 2 eyes of the void to a fountain for example you get 2 affictions with the description, 'lost some unimportant body part, no effect', so fountains and suchlike can never be blind. But AFAIK they get +4 penetration bonus still.

Baalz April 17th, 2007 12:08 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengea
 
Usually bonuses from multiples of the same item don't stack - 2 skull mentors won't both give you a research bonus, 2 thistle maces won't give you +2 nature, etc. Penetration is a bit harder to check, but I'd be surprised if it stacked this way. +4 penetration is pretty significant, and there are lots of spells just as effective when blind.

Jazzepi April 17th, 2007 12:15 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengea
 
It'd probably work if you had a void eye, and a green eye, but not two void eyes.

I would assume that a character with darkvision 100% can take two magical eyes without penalty?

Jazzepi

Baalz April 17th, 2007 12:30 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengea
 
Nah, dark vision is different than being "normally" blind. The Void Lord for instance has a feature "blind", when you click on it it says he orients himself without the use of eyes (psychically, presumably). Dark vision uses your eyes, you can just see in the dark.

Meglobob April 17th, 2007 01:44 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengea
 
To Baalz & Jazzepi:-

Look at the fountain pretender, astral version, it has 4 misc. slots so you can have crystal coin/eye of the void/crystal coin/eye of the void. Take S10 on start up, thats S12 with +4 penetration or you could have spell focus/eye of the void/spell focus/eye of the void for S10 +6 penetration!

Lots of 'fun' combos really. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

PvK April 17th, 2007 03:54 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengeance.
 
I don't think two crystal coins stack, and I doubt two eyes of the void stack, but you could stack a bunch of other stuff and get something just as wicked.

calmon April 17th, 2007 04:01 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengea
 
You can stack equal items with 4 slots. Combinations like 1/3 or 2/4 with eg. cristal coin do the deal.

Meglobob April 17th, 2007 04:11 PM

Re: Penetration and cast level. Also, blood vengeance.
 
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PvK said:
I don't think two crystal coins stack, and I doubt two eyes of the void stack, but you could stack a bunch of other stuff and get something just as wicked.

They all stack, as long as you equip them like I said in my earlier post. All tested and verified. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Graeme Dice April 17th, 2007 04:24 PM

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Jazzepi said:
You get the "blindness" affliction, which I believes prevents you from even attacking with a ranged item.

They can still fire, they just have a base precision of 0.

Baalz April 17th, 2007 04:29 PM

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Does the 1/3 combination work with 3 slots?


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