Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

Gorgon *might* be worth it right out of the box. Carrion Dragon or Ancient Kraken are formidable, although I would hesitate to use them without a good strategy in place.
Lord of the Night is a beautiful assassin, and good if your nation lacks such things.

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

Isn't it vunerable to magic duel? A real killer that a couple of low level astral mages could get lucky...but everything has a weak spot, I suppose.

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

Well its S4, easily boosted to S5 with the skullcap you'll probably give himso not THAT vunerable.

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

not to mention the angel is pretty close to being able to wish for power itself

(especially if you wish for the robe of the sorceress, to add to your astral boosting items in a way that does not horror mark.)

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

If you wanted to go all weird and have oodles of Construction to fill slots, the Ettin Mandragora might be fun -- more arms than usual, more heads than usual, two sleep vines for six additional attacks, 0 enc, good base hp, recuperation. It's not nearly as nasty as the Seraph, 'tho.

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

lifeless though, so two of the hands should be holding a wraith or hellsword :/

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

I'm surprised nobody mentioned any of the Nataraja type pretenders - isn't 4 hand slots a very excellent thing? IIRC, their stats aren't half bad either...

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

Pangaea has a specific Sacred spell to give its Manikins regen, and it's tireless, so you have HP and fatigue all taken care of automatically. Ettin Mandragora has long been one of my faves; give him a few attack bonuses, and those 6 (IIRC) sleep vine attacks become a terrifying extra threat on top of its 3 arms! I'd rather have him than a Seraph if I needed to kill another SC, since those sleep vines are a fantastic way to take out high-HP/armor units, and much of Seraph's unique awesomeness is its anti-chaff defenses (awe, blindness, fire).

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

You know, the thing about Wishing for a Pretender is that you're not actually wishing for a *Pretender*, you're just wishing for a chassis. So, wishing for, say, a Void Lurker, will get you a Void Dweller sans hardly any magical paths, even though it's supposed to be one of the most powerful magical beings. You're cheated if you wish for a magically powerful, physically weak being, because you don't get more than a drop of their potential.

It would be better-and a good use of high-level magic-if you could wish for a sortof "sidekick" Pretender. The spell could cost a certain amount of astral gems-say 250-just to get running, and then after that, each additional astral gem you spend gives you a point to spend on the new Pretender, fully decked out with magic paths. You'd have to pay the price for whichever chassis you chose, and after that, you could spend on magic paths and dominion.
Scales wouldn't be changeable with this spell.

I wouldn't think it would be difficult to code, since you'd just be tying the spell into the Pretender creation program. The new Pretender wouldn't grant Blessing effects though, unless you spent more gems on the new one than you spent points on the old one (something around 1250?).

The more powerful of the two (or three or whatever) Pretenders would be the one to grant blessings to sacred units.

This sort of set-up would have a lot of thematic interest, because you could potentially build whole pantheons, you could replace an old god with an up-and-comer, and you'd see your nation's religion evolve over time as you added new gods into the Pantheon. The power of Wish would be curtailed a bit, without being modified, since you probably wouldn't use it to summon the few SC Pretender chassis, even though you could.

Re: Wishing for an SC?
 

yeah, i like the destroyer of worlds with air magic (for mistform and mirror image) but only 1 misc slot means you have to make up either magic rresistance, luck, or regeneration somewhere else - usually through one of those hand slots. (just using the most common miscs as examples)