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Meglobob April 25th, 2007 02:22 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Quote:

vfb said:
I tested it, so I'm 100% sure Mind Lords are not Magic-Duel-Immune. I fried a Mind Lord in a Magic Duel using an S9 Oceana pretender.

I assume the mind lord died?

So that would seem to indicate that a tie results in both surviving rather than both dieing like the manual spell description clearly states.

I know magic duel works, because I have used it too good effect before against Acro.

ologm April 25th, 2007 03:15 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Didn't magic duel become less lethal a while back?

vfb April 25th, 2007 08:12 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Quote:

Meglobob said:
I assume the mind lord died?

So that would seem to indicate that a tie results in both surviving rather than both dieing like the manual spell description clearly states.

Yeah, vanished in a puff of blue protoplasm or whatever it is Mind Lords are made of.

I'll create an S3 Oceana pretender instead and run a few tests, I should only have to run it a few times before I get a tie.

Edit: I ran a ton of tests. When it was tied, both died. <font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
castspell: cnr19 spl271 (Magic Duel) vis3 x37 y15 spldmg999
vis 3 xvis 2
blastsqr: unr252 x37 y15 aoe1 dmg999 eff27 spc8388736 as10225 al9
affectvic vic505 hv0
hitunit 252 505 dmg999 spec8388736 ba-1
damage 505 dmg1006 spec0 ba-1
looseallitems: cnr 22(Geth) unr 505
damage 252 dmg1006 spec0 ba-1
looseallitems: cnr 19(Vukan) unr 252
</pre><hr />

vfb April 25th, 2007 09:56 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Last idea: Bob, was the mage who cast Magic Duel holding a Pendant of Luck? Did your mage cast Twist Fate/Personal Luck before Magic Duel? He may have lost the duel, but taken no damage because of the pendant/spells.

Wick April 25th, 2007 10:17 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
For a truly unlikely idea, does the 999 damage involve open ended die roles?

vfb April 26th, 2007 12:03 AM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Ha ha ha. Yes it does. That's why you see dmg1006 above. I'm guessing the mage had a pendant though.

Meglobob April 26th, 2007 09:33 AM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Quote:

vfb said:
Last idea: Bob, was the mage who cast Magic Duel holding a Pendant of Luck? Did your mage cast Twist Fate/Personal Luck before Magic Duel? He may have lost the duel, but taken no damage because of the pendant/spells.

Nope, all he had was a astral pearl.

K April 26th, 2007 01:44 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
I was testing out Magic Duel a while ago and I saw in a very small percentage of cases someone just wouldn't die even though the graphic comes up. It might be Luck or Twist Fate, or there might just be a 1% survival chance.

Sir_Dr_D April 26th, 2007 08:23 PM

Re: Magic duel and R\'lyeh Mind Lords
 
Does twist fate protect against mind duel? Then you could twist fate before you attempted the spell.


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