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Q June 21st, 2001 05:04 PM

Re: New Patch!!
 
Has anyone figured out what "Version 1.37: Fixed - Allegiance Converters should not work against ships with Master Computers."
did?
I tested it and you still can convert a ship after you destroyed the master computer (thanks the gods!!). And in my experience even in the old Versions you could not convert a ship with an intact master computer.
Do I miss something??

[This message has been edited by Q (edited 21 June 2001).]

Nitram Draw June 21st, 2001 06:08 PM

Re: New Patch!!
 
I always took it to be fixing the problem when an Alleigence Converter worked against a functioning Master Computer.
I am confused over this too but if in the end it doesn't work if there a functioning Master Computer then I'm happy because that was the only defense against it.

Dravis June 21st, 2001 06:17 PM

Re: New Patch!!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nitram Draw:
I always took it to be fixing the problem when an Alleigence Converter worked against a functioning Master Computer.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't think it ever did.

Nitram Draw June 21st, 2001 09:43 PM

Re: New Patch!!
 
Then what did they fix?

Aub June 22nd, 2001 12:09 AM

Re: New Patch!!
 
&lt;quote&gt;
10. Note - If you turn on the Resupply Minister, it will give orders to any and
all ships, regardless of their individual minister setting.
&lt;/quote&gt;

Hmm. I tried that, and ships happily run out of fuel and then just sit there. At least that's what is happening in sim turns games. Can anyone confirm that?

Thanks -- Aub

Lucanos June 22nd, 2001 12:45 AM

Re: New Patch!!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Q:
And in my experience even in the old Versions you could not convert a ship with an intact master computer.
Do I miss something??
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

According to my experience Alligience SUBVERTERS have always been able to convert master computers.



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AJC June 22nd, 2001 01:42 AM

Re: New Patch!!
 
ITs supposed to be; if the target vessel has a master computer you cannot convert the crew.. once the target vessels MC is destroyed - you can. Thats why having the computer virus tech is nice when your a psychic race.

Its working correctly.

[This message has been edited by AJC (edited 22 June 2001).]

Lucanos June 22nd, 2001 04:33 AM

Re: New Patch!!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJC:
...if the target vessel has a master computer you cannot convert the crew.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because ...there isn't any?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AJC:

once the target vessels MC is destroyed - you can.

Its working correctly.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mabbe it's working correctly NOW (1.41) - when the bug has been fixed.

Several of my MC have been subverted from time to time - I have NEVER seen the opposite, except for when I put a Self Destruct device onboard. The alligience subverter doesn't seem to work against Self Destruct devices (or maybe the AI just doesn't fire the AS at ships with SD devices?)

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CaptSpoogy June 22nd, 2001 04:53 AM

Re: New Patch!!
 
The computer will and can use the Allegiance Subverter on ships with Self-Destruct devices. It happened to me earlier today - I had added self-destructs to most of my fleet thinking that those Abbidon punks would get a nasty suprise. They did not. It seems that the self-destruct does not work against the subverter.

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Admiral Grover June 22nd, 2001 07:46 AM

Re: New Patch!!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucanos:
According to my experience Alligience SUBVERTERS have always been able to convert master computers.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That they can....I lost 2 carriers and a SYS to a computer Phychic race. They both has MC on them and never got hit with any other weapon.

Regards,


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