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Would it not be easier to lower the damage of blunt weapons across the board and add 1 AN damage.

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Well, if this is to be modded, No. Aside from the 1AN+MR mode, I don't think there's a way to add extra, non-elemental, damage to an attack. If its a developer change, maybe. Not quite sure how much code would be needed for that. Not too much I don't think, but it could be quite a bit.

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To add 1 AN damage sounds strange in the first moment, because as long as you do any damage anyway, it helps equally as much against Protection 1 opponents as against Protection 30 - Namely 1 per strike.

Next I think: However, it does mean, that, the more likely it is to totally deflect a blow, the more useful it is for the opponent to wield a blunt weapon.

And than again - I do not want a Horde of monkeyees with clubs to easily beat through an Obilisk.



So what? I say: Blunt weaons agains heavy armor should do extra fatigue to the victim.
This would work that way: Take the damage, reduce the rolls, reduce by the value of the natural armor and the damage actually inflicted, than, what is left is multiplied by a factor based on the weapon (daggers bad, swords better, axes even better, maces best) and a factor based on the armor (plate - leather - chain).

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Ahh, I've never really delved into the game mechanics (I'm still not that devoted a player), but if your estimations are correct perhaps justice has already been served http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif (Now, don't take that too literally - been excessively playing Baldur's Gate II lately. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif)
Anyway, that was referring to the comparison between the shortsword and the hammer. And on the second thought, you might be right about the broadsword as well though I have little idea how heavy it really is...

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Maraxus, Obelisks don't wear armor. AP and AN only get through armor, not natural protection. Obelisks, sphinxes, anyone who's ironskinned or wearing the Marble Breastplate, all those guys will be well protected against AP and AN damage. At least, I'm pretty sure that's the way it used to work; I don't think it's changed?

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AP and AN goes through any protection, natural or added armor. It has always been like that.

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"So what? I say: Blunt weaons agains heavy armor should do extra fatigue to the victim. "


For a combination of realism and simplicity, I would suggest that blunt weapons do less damage and more fatigue across the board. No need to worry about armor, changing calculations, etc.

-Jeff

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maybe a maul or so should get 'armor dent'..

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I think AP and AN kinda have rather vague wording about whether it included natural protection or not. Good to hear for sure straight from a dev.

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Maybe we can imagine for a next version a type of damage for each weapon just like there are damage type for magical damages (cold, fire etc...)
-Piercing (Swords, but also arrows etc...)
-Crush (Maces, flail)

So a Mace would have for ex. do 7 Crush while Sword would do a 7 Slash. An unarmored target would take 7 by both weapons while an armored one would maybe take 1/2 Slash damages and full Crush.

Of course it's impossible with actual system.