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PyroStock July 26th, 2007 12:52 AM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
Quote:

Kristoffer O said:
My brother just pointed out that this probably means that the heroic ability 'legendary cruelty' also affects spells in the same manner (it gives some fear and increased affliction chances).

Does anyone know how Legendary Cruelty scales? Does the Fear also increase over time? Unlike other heroic abilities there's nothing to show where this starts and how it scales up. I have it on a sacred unit (rainbow w/ 4Death bless) so I presume those both stack, but I'm wondering how good this heroic ability is... I'm tempted to retire him and let a new hero in (it's just SP so I control the Hall of Fame for the most part).

Edi July 26th, 2007 02:26 AM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
Legendary Cruelty is much like Heroic Agility in that it combines two different abilities in one package. Heroic Agility combines Heroic Battle Prowess and Lightning Reflexes with a bit of a bonus with the ambidex, Legendary Cruelty combines Battle Bellow (gives fear and increases over time) with the increased affliction chance.

Kristoffer O July 26th, 2007 07:47 AM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
I don't think the fear effect increases, but the affliction chance does.

Edi July 26th, 2007 08:08 AM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
So, the fear from legendary cruelty is different from the fear from Battle bellow?

Edratman July 26th, 2007 08:54 AM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
I am starting to think that the death bless has been underrated. It may not be real beneficial for hand to hand combat, but once you research some effective area spells and have sacred mages it has the potential to be stronger in the medium to late game than others that are more highly regarded.

Wahnsinniger July 26th, 2007 10:39 AM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
Thus, kinda like the Blood Blesses, its not really a good bless to base a strategy around, but if you need a pretender with Death( or Blood), you can go for it and probably do pretty well. (As long as its not your main strategy, its probably a really good option)

Edratman July 26th, 2007 12:57 PM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
Another dumb question. If I put the Shroud of a Saint (or whatever the raggy looking armor/shirt thing is called) that always blesses the wearer, does a non-sacred mage get the benefit of the death bless when he casts damage spells?

Hadrian_II July 26th, 2007 01:16 PM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
If death bless works on spells like Earthquake, it seems quite overpowered (or does the death damage also damage yourselves)

Baalz July 26th, 2007 01:28 PM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
If you mean does the extra affliction chance (the only part of the death bless which effects spells) apply when you damage your own troops, yes it does. Given the difficulty to use effectively (holy mages powerful enough to cast battlefield wide spells are moderately rare) and opportunity cost (you could have a water or fire bless) I certainly don't think the death bless is overpowered. A nice bonus, yes, but you're unlikely to win a war because of it.

Meglobob July 26th, 2007 02:55 PM

Re: Legendary Cruelty
 
Yes I agree with Baalz its not overpowered, simply because its better to kill the enemy, rather than leave them alive with afflictions.

Its really just annoying that the army is a bunch of limping, blind, one arm missing etc... pain filled wrecks.

Still, those pain filled wrecks can go on to conquer provinces, win battles until they finally drop dead... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Also if you have the chalice, GoH, healers etc you can make them as good as new again, if you are playing a caring god that is.


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