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TwoBits August 7th, 2007 11:53 AM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
Quote:

thejeff said:
Provinces can revolt?
Are you sure? I don't think I've ever seen it. And I've had provinces sit well over a 100 unrest for many turns.

I only remember this ever happening to me once, and I sort of forget the nature of the event (I don't think there was any battle, but I'm not sure). So, whatever the circumstances of it occurring, I believe it's exceptionally rare. Then again, I generally prefer to play with positive luck scales, and try to keep unrest under control as much as possible...

In any event, barbarian raids, vine-men attacks, vampire rebellions, heck, even Bogus and Co., etc., seem to be way more common.

Kristoffer O August 7th, 2007 11:56 AM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
> huh, I didn't know that about the good scales only taking effect in your own dominion

Neither did I, but I might be wrong.

Postitve scales in enemy dom do not count vs research. It affects if event is bad/good. YOu could say that it is good luck for the enemy dominion if you get a nasty event.

I don't think it affects the actual type of event (in regards to what might happen when it has been decided if the event is good or bad).

Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).
Knights in misfortune 2 IIRC.
Trolls in magical provinces.
Necromancers in Magic, Death and Misfortune IIRC.
Ancient precense in Magic 2 Growth 2 I would guess.

Almost all events (good and bad) has restrictions. Bad events might be restricted by good scales and vice versa.

The dying prince giving you his gold and items needs Death and Fortune.

Jazzepi August 7th, 2007 11:59 AM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
I tested this in several games. In armadillo I conquered the capital of Argatha who had magic 3. My mages did not get the research bonus until I preached out the 8 levels of dominion.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O August 7th, 2007 12:06 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
Yep. Enemy magic dom doesn't work for you. Neither do enemy luck scale. It is even bad for you regarding whether the event is good or bad regardless of if it is misfortune or fortune.

But, it will determine if events can appear. A helpful necromancer will not appear if enemy luck is below 1, nor will a barbarian horde attack unless the enemy misfortune is 3.

Jazzepi August 7th, 2007 12:06 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
Barbarian hordes do only appear in misfortune 3 (might need turmoil 1 as well, not sure).

Are you sure about this? I'm positive I've gotten barbarians attacking me with misfortune 2.

Jazzepi

Kristoffer O August 7th, 2007 12:09 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
THere are several kinds of barbarian attacks. I think only one is called a horde. Regardless of the name of the event one is by far bigger than the others.

Jazzepi August 7th, 2007 12:11 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
Ohh okay http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I was just using that word in general.

Jazzepi

Gandalf Parker August 7th, 2007 01:23 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
Are there any TOTALLY random events? Kristoffer seems to hate putting any in and not giving some sort of variable to it.

Also I want to thank the devs for adding to Dom3 that indepts are susceptable to events. That has made some very interesting games for me.

And how do people feel about the scales which do or do not affect others? As an RPG soloer I might like the pros and cons of dominion being able to bleed over into other peoples areas. Maybe even make use of taking harsh scales, and purpoely working at using the scales of another nation (putting a lab in their domain and purposely avoiding pushing my dominion that direction for awhile). But in player-vs-player games it might be more of an irritation than a usable strategy.

Baalz August 7th, 2007 01:54 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
I think it's great. Enemy dominion pushing in should never be a good thing.

Endoperez August 7th, 2007 04:26 PM

Re: What can cause Barbarian Uprisings?
 
High unrest can make barbarian attacks a common event IIRC, instead of a rare one. I think it's something like a rare event like this [Turmoil 1+: X barbarians attack], and a common event: [Order 1-, unrest 50+: X barbarians attack].


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