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Lazy_Perfectionist August 9th, 2007 11:40 PM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
It's not the greatest troops, but when I've been lucky, I've found it great in a siege.

Winter wolves are mindless, I think. Most of the undead are mindless too. If I remember my math right, each one of them counts as two and a half regular troops.

... Though from that point of view, the Sea trolls are probably a better use of water gems at 4.8 castle defense each, and a reliable amount of troops. Though size and food may be an issue.

They don't compare that favorably to Legion of Wights, either - though are available a lot easier at enchant six than enchant nine.

I just can't see building a strategy around them, ever- though it is worth noting that even the lowly unfrozen have a MR of 17.

Since I cast them anyways, I am interested in seeing how an army of 20something unfrozen + mage with 60 ghosts and 10 Winter Wolves fares.

Sir_Dr_D August 10th, 2007 12:31 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
That spell is really meant for LA Atlantis I believe and for LA Atlantis I find hidden in snow to be a great spell. For undead they have great stats. Above average hitpoints, high magic resitance, high defense and a cold aura. And you can cast it using water gems instead of death gems. There is a lot more use for death gems then water, so that in itself is a bonus. Combine them with darkness, wolven winter, and cold fatigue spells, and they do great.

Lingchih August 10th, 2007 01:23 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
I cast it with Niefelheim a couple of times (same game). I had great luck with it, with each casting bringing at least one good mage, and the full complement of troops (25 I think). Maybe I was just lucky.

Sir_Dr_D August 10th, 2007 01:26 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
The times I casted it in my game, it had the full complement of troops as well. Is it the cold scale that makes the difference?

Reverend Zombie August 10th, 2007 09:41 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
Quote:

Rytek said:
I have always had best luck at late summer and worse luck during late winter..

My crap result (no mage, a few of the worse troops), was from a late summer casting, so I don't think season is any guarantee of better results.

Lingchih August 11th, 2007 12:04 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
Quote:

Sir_Dr_D said:
The times I casted it in my game, it had the full complement of troops as well. Is it the cold scale that makes the difference?

I think it might. Since I had the full cold 3 scale playing Niefleheim.

Kristoffer O August 11th, 2007 09:46 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
I checked the code. Currently temperature has no effect, but it might be fun if it did.

Lazy_Perfectionist August 11th, 2007 11:35 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
You're such a tease, Kristoffer.

Temperature has no effect- but is there something that does?

NTJedi August 11th, 2007 12:03 PM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
Quote:

Lazy_Perfectionist said:
You're such a tease, Kristoffer.

Temperature has no effect- but is there something that does?

If I was to make a guess... I would say it's the same as the blood+nature summoning spell which is effected by the luck of the province. This is only a guess.

Kristoffer O August 12th, 2007 09:48 AM

Re: Hidden in Snow
 
Currently no scale effects on hidden in snow


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