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Master Belisarius July 31st, 2001 01:33 AM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Hi Warlord!!

"Interesting.. Could you describe the setup that causes them to expand slowly ?"

They doesn't expand slowly, they expand very very fast.
The problem (in my view), is that in games where they find aggressive races early (in games with small galaxy and 3 or 5 starting planets), while the Minbari are researching Applied Research II and III (and could take a lot of turns), the others are researching better techs for their warships... then, the Minbari could have problems (in fact, in my games they had) to survive the early game.

"They are also designed to use High-energy weapons when they have the tech. I chose DUC because they were cheap weapons that could hold their own (somewhat) until the Minbari get High Energy. When they develop a mix of both they are much more effective, though admittedly a bit under-gunned. I wanted them to be fast, and multi-role so they can carry solar sails, minesweepers, sensors..kind of a trade-off."

I can see your intentions, but the High Energy weapons take long time to research...
Honestly, still I like more the PPB weapons.
The good thing, is that the Duc cannons used in the Minbari fighters, are very good!


"Both the DUC and WMG have a short range. In theory, since I made research and propulsion such a high priority, the Minbari speed advantage should cancel out their lack of range. Are you not finding that this is the case ?"

True, but against ships with Ionic Disperser weapons (I love this weapon!), they have problems.
An example are the Aquilaeian Empire and the Pyrochette Empire (of course that both are my AI's! Remember you the old days? http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif ).

"I'll have to look into this. I had them earlier up the line and found out that they really slowed down research. I have to find that perfect medium."
Ok.

"Great to hear from you MB, thanks for the help !"
Hehehe, thanks Warlord! I think that you could recognize my spell (or lack of), very fast! http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif
Finally, want to say that I wrote my observations, not only because wanted to help you... also was... because I have enjoyed a lot the Minbari! http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

thorfrog August 2nd, 2001 05:36 PM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Any updates on Minbari. Awesome race. How about making the Centuri, League of Non-aligned Worlds, the Drakk,...

thorfrog August 9th, 2001 07:46 PM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Any update on the Minbari Race? They rock.

Warlord Adamus August 9th, 2001 10:07 PM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Been a bit busy lately so progress has been slow..but expect a new Version by monday at the latest !

Warlord Adamus August 14th, 2001 12:48 AM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
New Version is 1.1. You can get it here http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/For...ML/000017.html

Lots of improvements based on the feedback I've gotten, and quite a few nice new pictures from Mr. Schizoid. Gotta warn you to expect some more intense battles, as this time I used the Pyrochette as a sparring partner in my tests.

"How about making the Centuri, League of Non-aligned Worlds, the Drakk,..."

I wouldn't mind doing some scripts for those if I could find a good amount of pictures. It just gets time-consuming scrounging for B5 pictures on the net, re-sizing, renaming etc. If you've got a solution, email me.

Master Belisarius August 14th, 2001 03:31 AM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Thanks Warlord! I'll test them!

thorfrog August 14th, 2001 04:04 PM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Some pictures you can liberate from the Shadows set that was created. Maybe play of of that. I'll do some looking.

thorfrog August 15th, 2001 06:45 AM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Hey Warlord. I sent you an email with an updated Version of the Minbari, I added new graphics and addtional stuff. let me know what you think.

thorfrog August 16th, 2001 03:54 PM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Woops! Warlord, I did some more re-editing and added another ship graphic. I did some color enhansment as well. I will email it later in the day.

thorfrog August 17th, 2001 05:50 PM

Re: New SE4 Race: Minbari
 
Adamus I have posted my re-edit of your mod of the Minbari. I didn't touch any of the ai files. Just graphics. Hope you like.


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