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Re: Ulm - what items do you build w/Smiths?
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Re: Ulm - what items do you build w/Smiths?
How do you build SCs with Ulm? I would just be happy with thugs.
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Well, I'm not sure exactly what the difference is between SCs and thugs. I generally think of thugs as strong enough to take out most any PD singlehandedly, while SCs are in the ballpark of taking out moderately strong armies absent magical support. Ulm has some good thugs in the construction line which is a high priority anyway- golems & iron dragons (you can GOR the dragons, or just have a smith equipped with winged boots lead one dragon apiece for pretty lethal raiding options). For SCs, with boosters Ulm can reasonably easily summon all the elemental royalty other than water. You're also almost certainly going to want to empower a smith one level in death for forging reasons, this gives you an easy way to create death golems which can start encroaching into SC territory if properly equipped (no astral to mind duel, high HP & prot, built in crowd control with banefire shield). Outside of that, you've got the boosters to get that d1 smith high enough to cast liches, then the liches can take the boosters to make tartarians.
Also, keep in mind Ulm really needs a pretender to flesh out some of their magic diversity, and summoning SCs is a pretty reasonable use of pretender-turns so its not unreasonable to expect that to be something your pretender contributes to. |
Re: Ulm - what items do you build w/Smiths?
Really, Flail(2 attacks per round)+"Strength of Giants" (burn gems early on then get Earthpower a little later) = Killing Machines
Enchantment-3 can be gotten very early. However, once you get Blade Wind your going to need to phase out the Flail troops and phase in the Tower Shield Morning Star units. Do not use Black Plate. Do not use Black Plate. Do not use Black Plate. Also, your units are mighty and Smiths have Leadership-50. DO IN THE EARLY GAME USE THEM AS A COMMANDER! If a Smith ends up wandering around for several turns before a normal commander becomes available, then so what? Yes, you've lost some mage-turns, but you still have the mage, so it doesn't matter much. It's important to make sure he doesn't die though. Oh, and making everyone angry by pointing out glaring flaws in the game will pretty much destroy your diplomacy forever. This only matters if want to continue playing a game that is broken "because". |
Re: Ulm - what items do you build w/Smiths?
I have already had it explained to me that raiding is useless. You are wasting your time raiding. Baalz why are you confusing this player with your nonsense about raiding? Baalz, Baalz, you accuse me of trolling, but then you seek to lead this poor man astray with your talk of "raiding". A childs dream. Raiding is useless, and never done in MP. That's why useless PD has so little effect.
Oh, and it seems the only "fair" match up for any Monkey race is the bottom of the bottom. Unfortunately, LA Abysia was mentioned, which is pretty funny. I think it would be amusing for Patala to attempt to survive very long against LA Abysia. You know, Blood-2 hunters from turn 1 and Blood 2 Agony spammed on low MR monkies. Of course, later(Evocation-3, wow, really late) Abysia will Magic Duel all the Nagarashi to death. Then we'll see how good monkeys with astral and nature do against concentrated rains of fire and demons. But it's pretty clear people don't think out the consequences of Patala's many, many weaknesses before they trash talk. Patala honestly would benefit from having no PD at all if it would give them a real stealth unit. Of Astral-2 on the Nagirashi. Or much of anything, because their PD is currently completely useless. |
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You're a pretty good troll, you do so make one want to respond. But instead, hmmm, what's this? Ohhh, an "ignore this user" button. Cool, I think I'll push that one instead.
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Re: Ulm - what items do you build w/Smiths?
Hahaha. Yeah, you are a troll, Lord Bob.
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Respond? Exactly how were you going to do that? You just spent a post extolling raiding, and now you have to explain how PD has no effect on raiding. Clearly that's going to be a bit of a problem. Oh, and the Sanguine Rod has very little positive effect after Blood-2 is reached. It helps, but not in any spectular manner.
Blood 1: 0.50 times 1 to 7 slaves=2 slaves a turn 0.90 times 1 to 8 slaves=4.05 slaves a turn 1.00 times 1 to 9 slaves=5 slaves a turn 1.00 times 1 to 10 slaves=5.5 slaves a turn Clearly, Blood-2 is just fine. The reason why LA Abysia does poorly is people refuse to accept this and insist on getting Construction-4 first. So yeah, I can hunt with a Blood-2 Mage just fine. |
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