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Tyrant December 11th, 2007 09:23 PM

Re: Rain?
 
I've cast Rain twice in recent battles. The first time it worked fine, but the second time it went off properly but ended part way through the battle. I've never seen a BFE end during a battle before and don't know what to make of it.

vfb December 11th, 2007 09:33 PM

Re: Rain?
 
Hate to ask the obvious, but are you sure the caster didn't get killed?

Lingchih December 11th, 2007 10:16 PM

Re: Rain?
 
You guys are gonna make me go back into that game and replicate it, aren't you? I think I remember which one it was (I quit playing it cause Abysia was killing me). I'll do it tonite... might even post a game save.

No, it wasn't raining naturally in any of the battles. And the casters always survived (they were the first ones to run).

Lingchih December 11th, 2007 10:26 PM

Re: Rain?
 
Just took a look at the last turn again. Turns out it was raining already in one battle (never noticed the little raindrops before). Too bad natural rain doesn't seem to dampen Abysians.

In the other battle where it failed, I had Abysia outnumbered 3-1, so maybe the mage thought it wasn't worth wasting the gems. It's definitely a frustrating spell to try and use though.

vfb December 11th, 2007 11:38 PM

Re: Rain?
 
Both the Rain spell and natural rain do not appear to change the statistics of heat-aura units when they are viewed in battle with right-click.

However, I did do a test where I had a bunch of units chase down some burning ones with Heat(3) aura in natural rain. The units were not affected at all when they entered the clouds of smoke. Are you sure that in the rainy battle the Abysians didn't just whack you to death with their powerful attacks?

I think as far as Heat auras are concerned, the Rain spell and natural rain spells have the same effect, which is -3 to the aura. Probably this applies to flight and fire magic fatigue too.

Jazzepi December 12th, 2007 01:07 AM

Re: Rain?
 
Quote:

vfb said:
Both the Rain spell and natural rain do not appear to change the statistics of heat-aura units when they are viewed in battle with right-click.

However, I did do a test where I had a bunch of units chase down some burning ones with Heat(3) aura in natural rain. The units were not affected at all when they entered the clouds of smoke. Are you sure that in the rainy battle the Abysians didn't just whack you to death with their powerful attacks?

I think as far as Heat auras are concerned, the Rain spell and natural rain spells have the same effect, which is -3 to the aura. Probably this applies to flight and fire magic fatigue too.

I noticed this too D: I think that KO said it effects the heat anyways, just not on the unit.

Jazzepi

Torin January 8th, 2008 11:07 AM

Re: Rain?
 
Natural rain doubles the fatigue cost for battle fire magic too, and is expected to have the rest of the effects.
I wonder what´s the chancce for raining. Is it tied to Heat or cold scale?

Ironhawk January 8th, 2008 06:55 PM

Re: Rain?
 
Quote:

K said:
Did you script it on turn 1?

I find that the computer often casts a self-buff on turn 1, but on turn 2 will actually cast what you scripted.

No, I dont believe this is true. The AI will always attempt to follow its script if it can. The situation K was seeing was likely a case of no spell targets being in range or something to that effect

zlefin January 8th, 2008 07:00 PM

Re: Rain?
 
i've found that the computer will often ignore my orders to cast astral shield. not for any other buffs; just astral shield. it seems to love casting it. possibly a likes to cast it value in the ai set too high so it overrides set choise too often.


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