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Twan December 18th, 2007 03:15 PM

Re: lantern shield
 
I remember a game where the eyeloss effect worked with an eye shield on a SC paralyzed before melee, so I've difficulties to believe it's based on defense (or there is a bug somewhere).

Baalz December 18th, 2007 03:28 PM

Re: lantern shield
 
If you've got access to blood, shield of the accursed is one of my favs. One of (the? don't remember) best defense boosts, great protection, and if a SC wails away at you for awhile he's gonna be horror marked to hell even if he wins.

PyroStock December 18th, 2007 03:38 PM

Flails
 
The flagellant's flails don't ignore shields, but it was my understanding the magic forged flails/morningstars (Star of Heroes, Evening Star & Star of Thalrdom) still do. Edit: Although looking at Edi's DB there's nothing I see to suggest that.

Anyone know why Belial the Demon Lord's flail requires two hands for this size6 demon to hold if it has the same 3 damage as a regular one-handed flagellant's flail?

FAJ December 18th, 2007 04:05 PM

Re: Flails
 
I thought Belial's flail gave him a heratic bonus?

PyroStock December 18th, 2007 04:32 PM

Re: Flails
 
Quote:

FAJ said:
I thought Belial's flail gave him a heratic bonus?

The heratic thing sounds like Belphagor the Demon Lord. I believe Belial himself increases unrest and Edi's database shows he can "corrupt commander" too. Belial's flail has curse luck, which is what interested me about it. It's possible it's WAD, but I was just surprised seeing the 2-handed flail at 3damage since non-magic 2-handed wands/staffs are 3 damage along with non-magic 1-handed flails.

FAJ December 18th, 2007 05:35 PM

Re: Flails
 
Yeah, I confused the two. I am always disappointed when Buer doesnt show up.

Ewierl December 18th, 2007 06:27 PM

Re: Flails
 
Quote:

PyroStock said:
The flagellant's flails don't ignore shields, but it was my understanding the magic forged flails/morningstars (Star of Heroes, Evening Star & Star of Thalrdom) still do. Edit: Although looking at Edi's DB there's nothing I see to suggest that.

I thought I read somewhere that in Dom3, they were +2 attack vs. shields. Can't back up my statement with sources, though...

PyroStock December 18th, 2007 07:05 PM

Re: Flails
 
Quote:

Ewierl said:
Quote:

PyroStock said:
The flagellant's flails don't ignore shields, but it was my understanding the magic forged flails/morningstars (Star of Heroes, Evening Star & Star of Thalrdom) still do. Edit: Although looking at Edi's DB there's nothing I see to suggest that.

I thought I read somewhere that in Dom3, they were +2 attack vs. shields. Can't back up my statement with sources, though...

I cannot back up mine either & since I cannot find anything to confirm my initial premise in Edi's DB you're probably right & all flails are treated the same.


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