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vfb February 18th, 2008 06:50 AM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
Oops, I think I needed more testing with and without the shield.

Actual values for the "shield" test:

10 priests.

23 arrows to kill everyone, 1 caster automatically casting Seeking Arrow into the same province.

Did not replace wounded units.


15 arrows caused a wound.
8 arrows caused death.
2 priests died of disease.

Huh, 8 / 15 is 53%, which is really close to the DRN difference comparing 8 and 9.

With the pendant, amulet, or shroud, they escaped most of the time, so I was too lazy even to do 20 arrows.

So, thanks Micah!

I will update my original post.

Incabulos February 10th, 2009 12:54 PM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
I assume the robe of missile protection would have the same effect as the amulet of missile protection? Does the shield of valor apply the same "missile protection" spell as the robe and amulet? Or all are all three different effects?

Edi February 10th, 2009 02:54 PM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
Same effect, just a different source

Ironhawk February 10th, 2009 04:37 PM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
So regular shields dont protect against Seeking Arrows like they do vs. regular in game arrows?

vfb February 10th, 2009 06:34 PM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
That's right. There was a thread on Seeking Arrow a while back, and I think the result was that if your commander was targeted by a seeking arrow, only the following item (including shroud bless) effects would have a chance at helping him survive:
- Air Shield
- Luck
- Twist Fate

I'm not sure if the following help:
- Ritual of Returning (so he only gets hit by one arrow out of a Seeking Arrow barrage)
- Elixer of Life/Crystal Heart
- Twiceborn
- Immortality

The global Perpetual Storm also blows seeking arrows off course I think.

analytic_kernel February 10th, 2009 07:13 PM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
As supporting evidence, one of the strings in the executable seems to be a message for the blown-off-course outcome. (There's also a typo in said string.)

Code:
#strings dom3_amd64 | grep course
Mighty storms blew the arrow of course and it was not able to find any target.
Suddenly an arrow appeared out of the sky and headed straight for %s's heart. But %s's magical missile protection knocked the arrow from its course and %s got away without a scratch.

lch February 11th, 2009 07:52 AM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vfb (Post 673692)
That's right. There was a thread on Seeking Arrow a while back, and I think the result was that if your commander was targeted by a seeking arrow, only the following item (including shroud bless) effects would have a chance at helping him survive:
- Air Shield
- Luck
- Twist Fate
Didn't check, but AFAIK Ethereality helps, too.

Agema February 11th, 2009 08:32 AM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
Shouldn't do - Seeking arrow is not listed as a mundane attack, therefore should be magical and not stopped by ethereal.

atul February 11th, 2009 08:50 AM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
At least in Dom1 there was a message saying that the arrow passed through the target without wounding him, that happened if the target was ethereal. Of course they might've changed how things work, as with Wind Ride and so on...

vfb February 11th, 2009 10:13 AM
Re: Does air shield protect against seeking arrow?
 
That's embarrassing! The thread that I couldn't find is actually this thread, just page up a bit to 2008. I tested with a Robe of Shadows and it did not appear to offer any extra protection from Seeking Arrow.


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