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JZ March 26th, 2008 02:46 AM

Re: A novice question about MP.
 
Yup yup, I got mad because other player didn't promise anything but you did break our NAP. So I wanted that other player to take all my lands and then crush you. And it worked out, like a last laugh. Good that you learned your lesson though.

Omnirizon March 26th, 2008 02:57 AM

Re: A novice question about MP.
 
you bastard. oh well. it was still good fun. mucho lulz.

PashaDawg March 26th, 2008 08:20 AM

Re: A novice question about MP.
 
You're right. A NAP is not an alliance or even a collaboration. It just means the players do not want war *for now*. There can only be 1 winner, unless it is a team game, and so, war is inevitable (unless the players otherwise get defeated by other nations).

thejeff March 26th, 2008 08:31 AM

Re: A novice question about MP.
 
I wouldn't go anywhere near as far as saying " when you see one past around turn 5, be suspicious." I never offer NAPs to nations I haven't even found yet. Rarely if we don't share a border or expect to shortly share one. Nor have I gotten many offers from distant nations.

So a NAP offer later in the game means: "Hey, looks like we're going to be neighbors. Are you willing to be peaceful or do you want to fight?"

vfb March 26th, 2008 08:46 AM

Re: A novice question about MP.
 
Quote:

JZ said:
Yup yup, I got mad because other player didn't promise anything but you did break our NAP. So I wanted that other player to take all my lands and then crush you. And it worked out, like a last laugh. Good that you learned your lesson though.

I'm confused. He broke the NAP by ignoring the expiry period and attacking immediately?

Or you got mad because you had a NAP, but he sent the notice of termination and then attacked after the expiry period was over? That's not "breaking a NAP", it's "canceling a NAP".

Omnirizon March 26th, 2008 09:48 AM

Re: A novice question about MP.
 
Quote:

vfb said:
Quote:

JZ said:
Yup yup, I got mad because other player didn't promise anything but you did break our NAP. So I wanted that other player to take all my lands and then crush you. And it worked out, like a last laugh. Good that you learned your lesson though.

I'm confused. He broke the NAP by ignoring the expiry period and attacking immediately?

Or you got mad because you had a NAP, but he sent the notice of termination and then attacked after the expiry period was over? That's not "breaking a NAP", it's "canceling a NAP".

Our peace ended at turn 24, and I sent the notice on turn 19. So even once the NAP was fulfilled, the peace term would have two more months left. I suppose I could say I've never broken a NAP then, just a peace treaty. But why have a NAP and a peace treaty?


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