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Edi April 24th, 2008 12:03 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Thankee muchly, we have another red flag. You guys keep coming up with more and more exotic exploits and bugs, so up on the list this one goes.

Endoperez April 24th, 2008 12:25 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Quote:

Argitoth said:
transform a water queen, kill it, cast ritual of rebirth, the waterqueen comes back as a niefel jarl mummy, summon another water queen, rinse, repeat.

What does "transform a water queen" mean? Have it cast Transformation?

Zeldor April 24th, 2008 12:27 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Transformation is not the best way to spend gems I guess. Unless you just want a creature that simply moves, not useful one.

Tuidjy April 24th, 2008 02:08 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
> > transform a water queen, kill it, cast ritual of rebirth, the waterqueen
> > comes back as a niefel jarl mummy, summon another water queen, rinse, repeat.

> What does "transform a water queen" mean? Have it cast Transformation?

He probably meant "Get her into the Hall of fame", or "Summon a Water Queen".
Both are rather tricky in late game. I would much rather have a Water Queen
than a giant mummy, and a chance to get a Water Queen.

Anyway. Why waste 50W and 15D gems for a giant mummy with some water magic?

NTJedi April 24th, 2008 02:20 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Quote:

Tuidjy said:
> > transform a water queen, kill it, cast ritual of rebirth, the waterqueen
> > comes back as a niefel jarl mummy, summon another water queen, rinse, repeat.

> What does "transform a water queen" mean? Have it cast Transformation?

He probably meant "Get her into the Hall of fame", or "Summon a Water Queen".
Both are rather tricky in late game. I would much rather have a Water Queen
than a giant mummy, and a chance to get a Water Queen.

Anyway. Why waste 50W and 15D gems for a giant mummy with some water magic?

I agree... the real exploit with ritual of rebirth is taking a large size unit in the hall of fame, then make it your prophet and use ritual of rebirth after it's been killed. Now you have a giant mummy with 3 Holy plus whatever magic paths... then make the giant mummy your prophet bringing you a 4 Holy plus whatever magic paths. If the mummy dies you can use ritual of rebirth where you can once again make him your prophet for a 5 Holy plus whatever magic paths and so on. It's the only way to achieve a 9 Holy giant mummy without using Wish... and significantly less expensive.

Kristoffer O April 24th, 2008 04:50 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
But that is not a bug. All prophets that have returned from the dead are considered more powerful http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

WAD

Edi April 24th, 2008 05:32 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Quote:

Kristoffer O said:
But that is not a bug. All prophets that have returned from the dead are considered more powerful http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

WAD

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Anyway, the prophet may be WAD, and I find it delicious, but is the transforming a unique, then resummoning same unique a bug or is it WAD? As well as the get famous unique killed, Rebirth, resummon a new version?

Saulot April 24th, 2008 05:46 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Wouldn't the inherent act of transformation no longer make it the creature it was?

Quote:

Kristoffer O said:
But that is not a bug. All prophets that have returned from the dead are considered more powerful http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

WAD

By the way, this pleases me greatly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

BesucherXia April 24th, 2008 08:46 PM

Re: Moving immobile commanders / pretenders
 
Hmmm...
Can we make a water queen a prophet, then sacrifice it and summon it again. After that we will get a nature H3 priest, which can be proclaimed prophet again?


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