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And if you look at random newspaper clippings enough, you'll see patterns emerge there too. It's a conspiracy, man.

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I think Edratman is right, there is a relationship between unit type and heoric abilities.

And Reno, yes one can see patterns in everything if you keep looking, but refusing to see any patterns ( or conspiracies) is just the flip side of the Wrong coin.

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The conspirology squared: you look for conspirologists under your bed... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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I'll keep my eyes open and try to accumulate data. I have noticed that my Adonim keep getting heroic agility (ambidexterity, increased att/def) and heroic endurance (increased reinvig).

-Max

<font color="red">Edit: Heh. I guess I should say "that Adonai keep getting..."

Adonai = "my Lords", which is also the way Hebrews vocalized the name of God because they didn't want to pronounce it. Very punny in my mind and I had to share it.</font>

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I've seen thick skin once, higher protection was only on a dwarf (EA vanheim dwarfie)

I the awesome presence is indeed rare too.

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&lt;~~~~ Thou shalt know true terror.

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Yes, I was playing the new nation of Hinnom when I first saw legendary cruelty.

I get the unequaled obesity one a lot, which is kind of cruel since I am a bit overweight myself.

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The truly rare abilities are

• Awesome Presence (awe + leadership)
• Legendary Cruelty (fear + greater chance to cause afflictions)
• Battle Bellow (fear)
• Adept Researcher
• Undead General

Some of the more commonly seen ones:

• Valor
• Heroic Battle Prowess (attack)
• Heroic Strength
• Lightning Reflexes (defense)
• Heroic Precision
• Tough Skin (protection)
• Unequaled Obesity (strength + hitpoints + extra encumbrance)

Uncommon

• Heroic toughness (hitpoints)
• Heroic Endurance (reinvigoration)
• Heroic Agility (battle prowess + lightning reflexes + ambidexterity)
• Heroic Quickness (action points)

These are all based on what I have seen personally. In a large SP or cooperative hotseat game I consistently see all of the common and uncommon ones, with Heroic Toughness being the rarest of that lot. I see one of the rare ones in maybe 1 game out of 5 if I'm lucky. In the current cooperative hotseat game I'm playing with Kaljamaha, I have two units with the Tough Skin perk and they both have base prot around 11 or 12 (starting from 0).

Some of the more memorable heroes I have had:

• The Abysian Newt with Adept Researcher and research around 34 points per turn. My Great Warlock pretender got thoroughly schooled in the research department, he was lagging over 10 points behind easily.
• an Ulmish wolfherd (in Dom2) who had Awe(+10) by the time that SP game was done
• A Raksharaja in one of my games got Heroic Toughness and he was absolutely ridiculous, with well past 100 hitpoints
• This one is Kaljamaha's, a Raksharaja with Heroic Quickness and action points going past 40. Once he's done buffing, his boots of quickness take him on a rampage through the battlefield, leaving corpses in his wake.

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I suspect it's not tied to nation, but to unit stats instead.
My machakan sorcerers would often get heroic endurance, precision, quickness, etc. Heroic Obesity is often mentioned in context of giants (Jotuns, and now Hinnom). Warrior type commanders get strength, reflexes, obesity, toughness and other combat buffs more often.

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I agree. I've seen unequaled obesity on EA Agartha fairly often compared to other nations I frequently play.