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LDiCesare June 6th, 2008 08:19 AM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
I found out it depends a lot on the giants. Niefel giants fall easily to fire, so fire 9 bless T'ien Ch'i sacreds backed with Fire Demons can tear them down cost effectively. This doesn't work against fire resistant Hinnom and may not be that effectie against the Fomoré.
A death bless can also cripple giants as none of them has recuperation.
As Lanka, you should probably try to resort to thunderstrike and skeleton spam.

Taqwus June 6th, 2008 07:03 PM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
Hinnom gets recruit-anywhere healers. That said, a D9B9 blessing for a nation with cheap sacreds would still make you an annoying punk. :/

AdmiralZhao June 6th, 2008 10:27 PM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
The spell Iron Bane works well against giants. Once the giant's armor is weakened, they die quickly against swarming smaller units. Of course this weakens your own unit's armor as well, but it is not like they are going to survive a hit from a giant anyway. The best part about this spell is that it only requires an an E1 caster with Earth boots. So if you can find an independent with E1, and then trade for earth boots, you are set.

Darkness + undead/demons also works well, since your undead hordes will hit almost every time, while the giants will have pathetic attack values (and won't be able to lower your defense through multiple attacks against a single target).

For best results, combine these two tactics against an enormous army of sacred giants that Nieflheim has spent 30 turns building up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

chrispedersen June 6th, 2008 10:49 PM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
Quote:

LDiCesare said:
I found out it depends a lot on the giants. Niefel giants fall easily to fire, so fire 9 bless T'ien Ch'i sacreds backed with Fire Demons can tear them down cost effectively. This doesn't work against fire resistant Hinnom and may not be that effectie against the Fomoré.
A death bless can also cripple giants as none of them has recuperation.
As Lanka, you should probably try to resort to thunderstrike and skeleton spam.

Hell no! Lanka should be able to get a F9W9N4 bless vs the giants X9N6. Under which 3Tigers take 2 giants.

And I like the River Demons as Tien Chi MUCH better than the fire ones.

LDiCesare June 8th, 2008 02:59 PM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
Lanka F9 will indeed work very well against almost everybody but I'm not sure against hinnom.
I like River demons a lot too, and a F9W9 bless on them is deadly indeed, but F9 is mostly wasted against Hinnom.

MaxWilson June 8th, 2008 04:32 PM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
Unless you have multiple attacks, the 6 AP bless from F9 is pretty minor compared to the +4 to attack. With Lanka's hugely damaging Falchions F9 is IMHO not wasted against Hinnom. It's *better* against Niefelheim's fire vulnerability of course but against Hinnom the 6 AP attack would only add another 15% damage or so if Hinnom didn't have fire resistance.

-Max

rdonj June 9th, 2008 08:54 AM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
How would high death perform on nature blessed giants as opposed to fire?

LDiCesare June 9th, 2008 11:55 AM

Re: Killing blessed giants
 
Death would cause more afflictions, including against a regenerating giant, but fire would hit more often.
Against Niefelheim, fire is definitely better. Against Hinnom, I'd have to test, but MaxWilson is quite right that the +4 attack can make a big difference.
However, Death bless +%affliction affects all attacks, including spells and missiles, which makes it useful if you have sacred mages.


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