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GrudgeBringer July 8th, 2008 06:48 PM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
OK, I got a map at random. It is called Warhammer ORGE KING.

I drug it into maps (as it said zipped but wouldn't open) and it broke into 3 files.

1. Is a yellow file that looks like the ones we make when asked to make a new file. It has a whole LOT of TGA files.
It is named warhammer orge kn...

2. second file is a dog ear file that just says Warhammer Orge Kingdoms dm. and when I try to open it it directs me to a place where it says I can D/L stuff to open Dm files (whatever the H*** they are).

3. A third One that doesn't do anything.


I also checked in my Maps when I tried to start a new game and its not in there.

Can I REALLY be this stupid?

I read and reread the posts you guys have sent and I honestly don't understand what to do next.

Maybe if you could direct me to one (MOD like the worthy heroes that you KNOW is up to date and tell me how to do it I could keep trying) and a MAP that is a good one that the game will take and maybe with your directions I can get it to work.

ONCE I get it to work (I take notes when doing it the first time)I will always know how to do it.

Geeeez, I have to be the only one on here that has played this game for 2 months and can't seem to understand how to do most simple things to play MP unless its Vanilla.

Sorry for the rant and thanks for the help!!

Baneslave July 8th, 2008 07:12 PM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
Mmm, Warhammer Ogre Kingdoms is nation mod, you know, not a map. You must put all files and folders into "mods" folder.

Tifone July 8th, 2008 07:18 PM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
"Orge King"? Now THAT seems interesting ^^

GrudgeBringer July 8th, 2008 07:21 PM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
ArrrrrGHHHHH I SWEAR it was in under Maps.......

Sombre July 8th, 2008 08:23 PM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
I have to be honest, I was willing to help you and had potentially limitless patience until that post above.

I am the author of Ogre kingdoms. Even a brief glance at the very first post in the thread from which you downloaded it would have told you it's a new nation, not a map. If you're having problems getting something to work it also helps if you accurately describe what you are doing - for example giving the correct file names, in this case Ogre Kingdoms 0.7.zip. You might even consider linking to where you got it.

I feel your post implies that there is something wrong with Ogre Kingdoms, or ORGE KING/ogre kn... as you call it. Maybe there is, but the problem in this case is you. It doesn't lie with your computer illiteracy, though that is clearly hindering you, it's a more basic lack of due care and attention. You ask for a mod that 'we KNOW is up to date' and cite worthy heroes, but again a quick glance at the respective threads would tell you Ogre Kingdoms was updated far more recently than Worthy Heroes.

GrudgeBringer July 9th, 2008 01:17 AM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
Man don't get all uneasy over this.

I picked that out of the Maps and Mods section and thought It was a map...

End of story.

Now for as far as not paying attention I put exactly the way it appeared in the folder down to the KN.

If I knew how to Link it I would have (see computer illiteracy), but I really didn't care if it was up to date or not.

I was just trying to get SOMETHING to work and I see a bunch of people wanting 'Worthy Heroes' so I thought I would get that one.

So don't get angry with me because you authored the Orge Kingdoms that I choose at random to use as an example because I actually liked what it looked like.

I don't care if it was updated today...it just had no relevance to what I was trying to get across.

If you have a problem with what I said you could have written a PM to me instead of a rant on here.

Now, If you would like to help me become LESS illiterate and learn how to do this so I CAN D/L your map and play it...I would thank you very much.

Sorry, I just don't understand how I offended you I guess.

JimMorrison July 9th, 2008 02:19 AM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
What he's saying is that because it appears that you are not taking your time, and paying attention to what it is that you are actually doing, that he is wasting his time in trying to help you, because it becomes more a process of hand-holding rather than of simply giving easy to follow advice.

Now.....

Anything with a ".dm" extension is a mod, period. That will only ever go in the Mods folder. Sometimes Mods come with their own sub-directory. You don't DO anything to that, you just put it in the Mod folder as well. Any folder that comes along with a ".dm" file, is probably the auxiliary files for that mod, just put ALL of it in the Mod folder, don't remove anything from the sub folder ever.

Anything with the ".map" extension, goes in the Maps folder. It will always be accompanied by some sort of a graphic file, but yes for specific games, sometimes you will only get the graphic file, pay attention to that closely.


Beyond that, I don't know what more can be done to help you understand what has to be done, other than to show you. But since that's not going to happen, try to retrace your steps, and see where you went wrong, and fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

GrudgeBringer July 9th, 2008 08:33 AM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
Thank you, that exactly what I needed to know.

Its just the tRN and 2h files I needed to know what to do with when I was trying to send in my first turns on my first MP game.

I'm not stupid, I am just 'old' and this technology comes a little harder to someone who grew up without it.

Its not a matter of not paying attention but being rather 'afraid' of doing something wrong that will screw up the files of the game and I will never get it right.

But Mr. Sombre seems to have taken exception thwith the fact that I used his Mod as an example (see below) and nothing was farther from the truth.

When I said " I needed a file that we KNEW was current " what I was trying to say was that I have no way of know what everything means and IF I know we have a clean version of the game then what ever I do I can be sure that it will work if I stumble on to the right sequence.

"I feel your post implies that there is something wrong with Ogre Kingdoms, or ORGE KING/ogre kn... as you call it. Maybe there is, but the problem in this case is you. It doesn't lie with your computer illiteracy, though that is clearly hindering you, it's a more basic lack of due care and attention. You ask for a mod that 'we KNOW is up to date' and cite worthy heroes, but again a quick glance at the respective threads would tell you Ogre Kingdoms was updated far more recently than Worthy Heroes"

Actually I was looking to D/L the'Worthy Heroes' mod and decided to get a map that I thought was neat to play that mod on...enter Orge Kingdoms.

I thought It WAS a map (not knowing about DM files and all)
so I wrote what I did.

If he feels I slighted his endevour then I apologize, it was not my intention.

If you look at my previous posts you will see that I do nothing but THANK the people that respond for taking thier time to help someone who is having trouble and is telling them something that they have said 100 times before to other people.

And I thank you for stepping in and explaining things.

I hope Mr. Sombre understands that it was no intended slight but if he thinks it was then there is nothing more I can do or say that will change his mind.

However, I hope he checkes in and rereads all this and decides to continue to help folks (like me for example) as he is very good at what he explains....Its folks like me that have to understand it and it might not 'take' the first time.

Again thanks to all!~!

Sombre July 9th, 2008 08:44 AM

Re: Mods? Maps? Need some help
 
No hard feelings, glad you got it working.

I would advise you to look a bit more closely at what you're doing next time. Even given you don't know about .dms and .maps, it's clear you didn't read anything in the Ogre Kingdoms thread (even the title), you just downloaded it at random and when you couldn't get it working came back here for help. To me that doesn't make any kind of sense when it has a thread several pages long in the mods and maps forum, the first post of which makes it absolutely clear what it is.

GrudgeBringer July 9th, 2008 08:51 AM

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will do....thanks http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


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