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Kristoffer O August 29th, 2008 11:03 AM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
Targets are in range I suppose?

And not inanimate or something else that might make LfL useless?

Baalz August 29th, 2008 11:14 AM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
Nah, it's got a range of 100, and even if there's some strange interaction that made the angels immune, in one of the fights there was also a human mage buffing the angel - imps killed him, but there is no way he was immune to the scripted LfL.

NTJedi August 29th, 2008 11:15 AM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
Well I know higher level mages receive a fatique discount casting lower level spells. I'm thinking it might be vise versa for low level mages casting higher level spells, thus if this is the 4th spell being casted during battle even with extra blood slaves it's too much fatique.

archaeolept August 29th, 2008 12:45 PM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
i've often had difficulty having mages cast spells that *should* be possible given a maximal gem output. Try using blood 3 casters instead.

or, preferably, don't ;p

imps are all you need, i'm sure :)

or perhaps the spell does not affect magic beings?

NTJedi August 29th, 2008 01:05 PM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baalz (Post 634930)
Life for a life, requires B3 and 1 blood slave. Why is it my B2 mages refuse to cast it using a second blood slave? Plenty of blood slaves, several valid targets, spell is scripted....why can't they cast it?


How much fatique do these B2 mages have at the time they are scripted to cast life for a life?

How much Spell Casting encumberance do these B2 mages on the battlefield?
(not regular encumberance, clicking on encumberance will display the spell casting encumberance)

archaeolept August 29th, 2008 01:59 PM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
it's their first spell, and they are demonbreds w/ 2 spell casing enc.

though i can't tell what really happened in the battle as they were done under 3.17 and i can't trust the replay under 3.20...and i seem unable to watch even the redownloaded turn's battles using the old 3.17 executable (an aside: wtf?)

edit: also, it is cbm 1.3; fatigue for the spell is 199

capnq August 30th, 2008 06:08 AM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 635143)
it's their first spell

That might be the problem right there. The AI seems to have a strong preference for casting some kind of buff on the first round.

archaeolept August 30th, 2008 02:24 PM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
nah, the AI summoned imps :D

the debug indicated there wasn't a valid target... the game is under CB mod, but I don't think LfL was changed at all.

maybe it acts as if it were a 2 slave spell, for some reason... 199 fat isn't ordinary.

K August 30th, 2008 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 635286)
nah, the AI summoned imps :D

the debug indicated there wasn't a valid target... the game is under CB mod, but I don't think LfL was changed at all.

maybe it acts as if it were a 2 slave spell, for some reason... 199 fat isn't ordinary.

I can't find the CB changes for version 1.0, just the changelogs for 1.1 and 1.3. I'll PM quantum_mechani to see if he altered Blood or LfaL.

This problem could easily be explained by a range change.

K August 30th, 2008 03:19 PM

Re: B2 mage can't cast Life for a Life?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K (Post 635288)
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 635286)
nah, the AI summoned imps :D

the debug indicated there wasn't a valid target... the game is under CB mod, but I don't think LfL was changed at all.

maybe it acts as if it were a 2 slave spell, for some reason... 199 fat isn't ordinary.

I can't find the CB changes for version 1.0, just the changelogs for 1.1 and 1.3. I'll PM quantum_mechani to see if he altered Blood or LfaL.

This problem could easily be explained by a range change.

QM says there was no change.


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